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作者:火影 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:292) 发表:2011-07-24 16:19:21  21楼
Sorry if I hurt any of you and your “face”, by pricking the bubble.I have been surfing 悟入棋途 for 2 years, recently my company is doing a project with a tool can trace IP, so I happened to see a lot of funny things here, people act like a superman, change a suit and shoot others. It is unfair for the others. You may think you are just frankly speaking or making a joke or being naughty , but others may not. They may feel hurt, like our dearest Cabbage, because our human language like signaling has an output port and an input port, the two ports have different ports-settings and working mechanisms. We don’t want to see 悟入棋途 closed after benefiting us so many years. But may I suggest if it is possible to build a real name community at 悟入棋途, means people use their real names (like “王印”), to prevent such kind of farce happening again?
有棋友提醒,无奈再回这个贴并申明。
sech请别介意,这是好坏掺拌的事,任何故事都要有结局,我反而喜欢这个结局。

我写的基本只对事不对人,由于我认识对方,顾虑厉害关系所以不会把话讲绝了,只希望把意思用最直接方式传达出就算了,反而有时对方因为不认识我,讲得不是很高级,甚至放话挑战。两天前我上网接受挑战了,居然没人上来骂我,论坛挑战我的人只敢在旁看,跟我下棋和搭话的反而是那些虚心要学棋和支持我的。有位个年轻甲级棋手在不认识我的情况下,甚至叫我尽管批评他的棋的弱点,好帮他进步。我的棋并不胜与他,但仍然说出了看法供他参考。

用bls是方便把想说的话说出来,对我来讲只有痛快,没有后悔,有谁想验证我的棋力的话,尽管来网上决高下。

我的退出跟面子无关,确实是抗议一刀版主的不公正,和反对那‘妈妈论词’。如果有谁认为那‘妈妈论词’没什么,那请用在自己身上吧。

最后在此声明,不希望吾入棋途关闭,不希望棋一生为我退出,不希望卷兄退出。我不过是棋界的小卒罢了。。。

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作者:鹏鹏哥 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:34) 发表:2011-07-24 16:59:31  22楼
同意!
这几天,论坛发生了一些小矛盾,但不管怎样,我们都有共同的爱好而相聚在一起,本身这是来之不易的,我认为没有必要为一些小事而伤了大家的和气!您们说呢?
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作者:偷天妙手 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:240) 发表:2011-07-24 17:49:24  23楼
有棋友提醒,无奈再回这个贴并申明。sech请别介意,这是好坏掺拌的事,任何故事都要有结局,我反而喜欢这个结局。 我写的基本只对事不对人,由于我认识对方,顾虑厉害关系所以不会把话讲绝了,只希望把意思用最直接方式传达出就算了,反而有时对方因为不认识我,讲得不是很高级,甚至放话挑战。两天前我上网接受挑战了,居然没人上来骂我,论坛挑战我的人只敢在旁看,跟我下棋和搭话的反而是那些虚心要学棋和支持我的。有位个年轻甲级棋手在不认识我的情况下,甚至叫我尽管批评他的棋的弱点,好帮他进步。我的棋并不胜与他,但仍然说出了看法供他参考。 用bls是方便把想说的话说出来,对我来讲只有痛快,没有后悔,有谁想验证我的棋力的话,尽管来网上决高下。 我的退出跟面子无关,确实是抗议一刀版主的不公正,和反对那‘妈妈论词’。如果有谁认为那‘妈妈论词’没什么,那请用在自己身上吧。 最后在此声明,不希望吾入棋途关闭,不希望棋一生为我退出,不希望卷兄退出。我不过是棋界的小卒罢了。。。
都说不来了,还JJYY的每帖必回,真让人看不下去!
披着马甲逢人便伤,丝毫不故及别人感受,最终劣迹暴露,没面子了,混不下去了,还要拿别人的话当台阶下,更何况人家都不计较你搅出的这一泼浑水,还跟你道歉,你还咬住不放,可真不大度。别说我因为不认识你,才放话挑战,我要是认识你,也会与你绝交,再狠狠臭骂你一顿,伪君子!
幸好你以后不来了,天下太平。
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作者:sech (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:3) 发表:2011-07-24 20:36:57  24楼
有棋友提醒,无奈再回这个贴并申明。sech请别介意,这是好坏掺拌的事,任何故事都要有结局,我反而喜欢这个结局。 我写的基本只对事不对人,由于我认识对方,顾虑厉害关系所以不会把话讲绝了,只希望把意思用最直接方式传达出就算了,反而有时对方因为不认识我,讲得不是很高级,甚至放话挑战。两天前我上网接受挑战了,居然没人上来骂我,论坛挑战我的人只敢在旁看,跟我下棋和搭话的反而是那些虚心要学棋和支持我的。有位个年轻甲级棋手在不认识我的情况下,甚至叫我尽管批评他的棋的弱点,好帮他进步。我的棋并不胜与他,但仍然说出了看法供他参考。 用bls是方便把想说的话说出来,对我来讲只有痛快,没有后悔,有谁想验证我的棋力的话,尽管来网上决高下。 我的退出跟面子无关,确实是抗议一刀版主的不公正,和反对那‘妈妈论词’。如果有谁认为那‘妈妈论词’没什么,那请用在自己身上吧。 最后在此声明,不希望吾入棋途关闭,不希望棋一生为我退出,不希望卷兄退出。我不过是棋界的小卒罢了。。。
I am wondering why you are still talking a lot on 棋力 at this moment
Is the issue about 棋力? No, not at all !

You cannot simply evaluate a person by his棋力, but actually as we seen, you often did so For example,. You talked on the level difference between Cabbage and GM Ng, you said Master Kng is a lower Grade A player, you said Ji Du never got Top 8 in Grade A, and you named another player as 9-lose what, etc. Yes, all these you have mentioned before are ture, but It was not polite or respectful to be saying so. When you were talking about their weakness in 棋力, and ignoring their contribution to chess, how would you wish to win others’ respect?

The more you talk on one thing, shows the more you care about the thing or the more you are accomplished in the thing. So is it because you care about 棋力 more than contribution, or you are accomplished in 棋力 but short of contribution? When you were not showing enough respect to their contribution or not enough 修养 to their 棋力, how would you wish to be treated with respect and 修养 by them?己所不欲勿施于人。

Personally I don’t think One Knife’s words were towards your Mum, you may think by another way, if you treat everyone like your Mum, be polite and respectful, you will win a wide measure of toleration. The way how you are, determines the way how you think. Think about, why One Knife is polite to the rest of 棋友, but you think he's not polite to you? Is it because you are different from the others?

Last but not least, I believe you are still welcomed by all the 棋友 here, as 火影, but not as bls. I believe you still can receive the greetings from One Knife, like everyone first time joining 悟入棋途 (except me, still haven’t received my peach…)
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作者:BaoQinTian (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:1) 发表:2011-07-24 21:31:48  25楼
不公平。 一刀n断处事明显不公。我不觉得bls的指出的level问题有错,倒反而你那句“别以为普天之下皆你妈,谁都得惯着你。。。”令我非常反感,请注意自己的修养,前辈不是这么对待的。为表示抗议,再也不看这个论坛。
Bao Magistrate here... Way Ooo.......!
Everyone here, be it a reader, player, victims or passer-by, listen to Bao Da Ren:

I have gone through all the postings in detail and this is my 'verdict':

(1) Bls - A straight-talker who care most of the time caustic. Please control your emotions and excerpts as sometimes truth hurts. Although this is just a forum and your words doessn't do physical harm but remember this: "The pen is mightier than the sword".

(2) Einstein - I dont know why you are part of this foray but you are not. There could be some misunderstanding, just embrace Cai and his shortcomings just like you love nature. Cai is a fine young man. May peace be with you and do visit the site, dont ban yourself.

(3) Quan Xin Cai - Thanks for your contribution but help to maintain this site. Don't give up becos of some superficial war of words. Lao fu has come across many sites and heard worse things than that where verbal abuse are hurled across the forum.This is considered mild here, bls meant no harm.

(4) Yi Dao - Although you are a controller here but everyone should be entitled to their opinion. Yes, personal attacks are not healthy but sometimes comments/opinion can help to improve oneself. Oh, by the way, you should not have use 'mother' in your comments. You are a role-model of the society (teacher) and this is not right. Your students may be reading this forum. Please take note.

(5) Tou Tian Miao shou and Luo Shan Er - Every community has blacksheeps and i have seen what your comments were. Stop rubbing salt on wounds or Shan Feng Dian Huo. People like you guys sometimes may unwittingly create disharmony. Do kindly stop it. Make love, not war.

(6) Sech - I hereby "sentence" you to 'unlawful' use of company resources to hack into one's IP and exposing all players. Read the Laws of IT Governance. Stay where you are now. Do it again, you will know the consequences.

My final advise to all real chess lovers, please have peace. This is a small community and words can sometimes be misunleading or create miscommunication. Do not worry. Life should goes on here and everyone to shake hands and look forward. *Court session over....Way Oooooo....*


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作者:xiaobeidou (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:321) 发表:2011-07-25 16:24:37  26楼
I am wondering why you are still talking a lot on 棋力 at this momentIs the issue about 棋力? No, not at all ! You cannot simply evaluate a person by his棋力, but actually as we seen, you often did so For example,. You talked on the level difference between Cabbage and GM Ng, you said Master Kng is a lower Grade A player, you said Ji Du never got Top 8 in Grade A, and you named another player as 9-lose what, etc. Yes, all these you have mentioned before are ture, but It was not polite or respectful to be saying so. When you were talking about their weakness in 棋力, and ignoring their contribution to chess, how would you wish to win others’ respect? The more you talk on one thing, shows the more you care about the thing or the more you are accomplished in the thing. So is it because you care about 棋力 more than contribution, or you are accomplished in 棋力 but short of contribution? When you were not showing enough respect to their contribution or not enough 修养 to their 棋力, how would you wish to be (more...)
我觉得你才是太过分!
人家即使是用了两个nick你也不能拆穿他们!bls说话直没有什么错。但可能人生攻击是有时候cross the limit 的地方。但这个毕竟是个象棋的论坛有时候需要这种人才有戏。但你凭什么拆穿他?给我那种backstab 的感觉。虽然我没有用两个nick但如果被你拆穿了肯定很气!那有两个nick 有什么用!你才是backstabber and the one that started the actual trouble here!
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作者:ZJS (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:139) 发表:2011-07-25 17:40:26  27楼
I am wondering why you are still talking a lot on 棋力 at this momentIs the issue about 棋力? No, not at all ! You cannot simply evaluate a person by his棋力, but actually as we seen, you often did so For example,. You talked on the level difference between Cabbage and GM Ng, you said Master Kng is a lower Grade A player, you said Ji Du never got Top 8 in Grade A, and you named another player as 9-lose what, etc. Yes, all these you have mentioned before are ture, but It was not polite or respectful to be saying so. When you were talking about their weakness in 棋力, and ignoring their contribution to chess, how would you wish to win others’ respect? The more you talk on one thing, shows the more you care about the thing or the more you are accomplished in the thing. So is it because you care about 棋力 more than contribution, or you are accomplished in 棋力 but short of contribution? When you were not showing enough respect to their contribution or not enough 修养 to their 棋力, how would you wish to be (more...)
敢问阁下(SCEH),你是何方神圣呢?
我相信在座的华新棋友们也很好奇。
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作者:xiaobeidou (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:321) 发表:2011-07-26 11:02:39  28楼
敢问阁下(SCEH),你是何方神圣呢?我相信在座的华新棋友们也很好奇。
If Sorry can cure all wounds we don't need prisons and policeman
obviously he is hiding behind his computer happily exposing people I'm sure he didn't even ask the permission of those he expose. A coward is what he is.
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作者:棋一生 (等级:15 - 最接近神,发帖:3182) 发表:2011-07-27 00:05:16  29楼
笑,且问你,你说我处事明显不公是站在哪个层面?网友?版面?论坛?你下棋可以有很好的大局观,但做事未必。 你觉得我ban他是因为他对我说的level什么的?那只能说明你看问题片面,主观说,bls并没怎么冒犯我,但是于论坛,确实是影响和谐的,其贴其行事作风放在别版也是一样被ban的,华新不是只有一个悟入棋途。 至于那句话,只是引用了时下流行的一句电视剧台词,风格比较无厘头,并非脏话。 至于你来不来这个论坛,本也不是冲着我的面子和所谓修养,我也不是及时雨宋江,让很多英雄好汉慕名落草,所以你用这种方式表抗议,对我也不太公平。
一些棋友,包括我,都只看到问题的片面,造成误会一场!
基于bls说话的口气影响和谐的理由而被“ban”,这还情有可原,我和一些棋手还以为“一刀n断"怎么这么小气,只因bls坦率直说“卷心菜”的棋艺水平与黄、吴大师不在同一个水平,竟然如此老羞成怒,一刀斩死bls,实在不合情理,一位天资禀赋的神童在还没靠到博士学位的文凭时难道你可以说他已经具有博士学位的水平吗?别忘了“卷心菜”将来可能还要继续为甲级与大师的衔头奋斗努力呀!”
bls请听“星云大师”怎么说:
星云大师说:“骂要以爱为基础,且要注意到自己的用辞、场合和语气,以及对方的根器。禁得起骂的人,会遵从教训,立志改进;禁不起骂的人,要用爱心来感化,用鼓励代替责备,用沟通来了解原因,用耐心来引导,骂人要出于好意、爱心和善意。
一刀n断请听”星云大师怎么说:
星云大师说:“学会包容不完美的世界,你就拥有一个完整的世界了!,用包容去体谅对方。”不要这么快就一刀把人斩死,除非是对方顽固不化,屡劝不改,那时再操刀也不迟,这样,才能避免棋友们误会!
请原谅我这位老头,在这里说教,唠叨唠叨!
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