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作者:CFA (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:805) 发表:2004-01-07 16:05:05  楼主  关注此帖
frpapaya, pls come in
how come i cannot reply u after your qn " Are you GY?" is it because there are aleady too many layers?

anyway, i am not GY. Neither i am in the Finance field. that somehow explains why i am going through the trouble to take the CFA exams.

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作者:frpapaya (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:1098) 发表:2004-01-07 16:51:19  2楼
I see...
That is due to too many layers, since i limit it to be 10. :).
But as what I know, to get CFA title (or membership) you need 3 years experience. If you are not in this area, why don't go to take MFE offered by both NUS and NTU as a part-time master degree for financial engineer? I feel MFE is more suitable for analysis since I feel what they tought really fit well to what I need to be an analysis.
You could take a look of the website at,
http://cfe.nus.edu.sg/curriculum.htm

By the way, I am a qauntitative analysis in a bank doing structure finance. As what I know, only few banks need people in this area in singapore. But situation is improving, since econ is recoverying... hehe...hope trading could go up as well..
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作者:CFA (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:805) 发表:2004-01-07 17:06:29  3楼
I see...That is due to too many layers, since i limit it to be 10. :). But as what I know, to get CFA title (or membership) you need 3 years experience. If you are not in this area, why don't go to take MFE offered by both NUS and NTU as a part-time master degree for financial engineer? I feel MFE is more suitable for analysis since I feel what they tought really fit well to what I need to be an analysis. You could take a look of the website at, http://cfe.nus.edu.sg/curriculum.htm By the way, I am a qauntitative analysis in a bank doing structure finance. As what I know, only few banks need people in this area in singapore. But situation is improving, since econ is recoverying... hehe...hope trading could go up as well..
Yes, i am aware of the requirement of 3-yr experience.
I just hope by passing all 3 levels of exams consecutively at least add some favour to my CVs.

Thanks for your advice. But i am not sure if MFE is my cup of tea or not. I ain't good at computing:(

Btw, really don't understand why nowadays investment analysis can go so damned "techie". Don't think Buffett would know how to use all these fancy stuff. Sigh, any finanical institution is willing to employ a Buffett's disciple...?

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作者:仙仙龙 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:115) 发表:2004-01-07 19:30:38  4楼
Yes, i am aware of the requirement of 3-yr experience.I just hope by passing all 3 levels of exams consecutively at least add some favour to my CVs. Thanks for your advice. But i am not sure if MFE is my cup of tea or not. I ain't good at computing:( Btw, really don't understand why nowadays investment analysis can go so damned "techie". Don't think Buffett would know how to use all these fancy stuff. Sigh, any finanical institution is willing to employ a Buffett's disciple...?
hehe...
actually, my only strength is computing,techie .... :D
I'm now writing my thesis on Pricing High dim American option.
-__-!!

My MSN is: Linyi2001@hotmail.com

Have a chat,guy, if u free....^^
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作者:frpapaya (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:1098) 发表:2004-01-07 21:43:11  5楼
Yes, i am aware of the requirement of 3-yr experience.I just hope by passing all 3 levels of exams consecutively at least add some favour to my CVs. Thanks for your advice. But i am not sure if MFE is my cup of tea or not. I ain't good at computing:( Btw, really don't understand why nowadays investment analysis can go so damned "techie". Don't think Buffett would know how to use all these fancy stuff. Sigh, any finanical institution is willing to employ a Buffett's disciple...?
sigh...if you are trader you will know why
Regulation should be a big reason. Risk control and internal control are all quite techie, at least VaR is really a mathematical terms.
Anyway, computing is really very important even for a trader, unless you want to do paper works, but paper works is extremly boring (at least for me).
If you really want to be an analysis, taking a programming course will be necessary. (just my personal view).
By the way, what is your background, engineer?
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作者:frpapaya (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:1098) 发表:2004-01-07 21:45:07  6楼
hehe...actually, my only strength is computing,techie .... :D I'm now writing my thesis on Pricing High dim American option. -__-!! My MSN is: Linyi2001@hotmail.com Have a chat,guy, if u free....^^
interesting project..hehe
is there any pp doing cds pricing?
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作者:仙仙龙 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:115) 发表:2004-01-07 22:05:13  7楼
interesting project..heheis there any pp doing cds pricing?
what is cds ?
thx
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作者:mobydick (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:326) 发表:2004-01-07 22:10:31  8楼 评分:
Yes, i am aware of the requirement of 3-yr experience.I just hope by passing all 3 levels of exams consecutively at least add some favour to my CVs. Thanks for your advice. But i am not sure if MFE is my cup of tea or not. I ain't good at computing:( Btw, really don't understand why nowadays investment analysis can go so damned "techie". Don't think Buffett would know how to use all these fancy stuff. Sigh, any finanical institution is willing to employ a Buffett's disciple...?
I have some ideas on the technical analysis
In my opinion, both the technical investors and foundamental investors make the trend together. Although for foundamental investors, speculation may not be their manner. But they often buy a lot of shares and hold for a relatively long period, say more than 1 years. Buffet and Peter Lynch are the examples of such investors. Although they don't want to speculate, what they have done still affect the market. That is they locked a big quantity of shares in the market. As a result, the share supplied in the market will be less. For the rest of share, technical investors would easily push the price up.

Therefore, the trend theory always works. Especially today's investors has learned both foundamental and technical analysis in their school. So technical analysis is becoming a common sense.

In my opinion, small investors could work with both theories. Since they can enter or exit the market very quickly. That's their advantage.

But for the Charted, I think it's still a good buy even from foundamental analysis.
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作者:frpapaya (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:1098) 发表:2004-01-07 22:48:35  9楼
Credit default swap.. but
what is your major?
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作者:frpapaya (等级:5 - 略有小成,发帖:1098) 发表:2004-01-07 22:54:45  10楼 评分:
I have some ideas on the technical analysisIn my opinion, both the technical investors and foundamental investors make the trend together. Although for foundamental investors, speculation may not be their manner. But they often buy a lot of shares and hold for a relatively long period, say more than 1 years. Buffet and Peter Lynch are the examples of such investors. Although they don't want to speculate, what they have done still affect the market. That is they locked a big quantity of shares in the market. As a result, the share supplied in the market will be less. For the rest of share, technical investors would easily push the price up. Therefore, the trend theory always works. Especially today's investors has learned both foundamental and technical analysis in their school. So technical analysis is becoming a common sense. In my opinion, small investors could work with both theories. Since they can enter or exit the market very quickly. That's their advantage. But for the Charted, I think it's still (more...)
don't think so...
anyway, the big player is not buffet or peter, in normal days trading, speculator are big player. speculator will not hold for long only fund manager or investor hold it for long.
from fundamental analysis, charter is even worst, based on book value 0.6, the price is a bit high... the p/e ratio is also not so good... but the gross income is really large...i think that is the reason...another reason is the semiconductor indursty...
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作者:mobydick (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:326) 发表:2004-01-07 23:16:25  11楼
don't think so...anyway, the big player is not buffet or peter, in normal days trading, speculator are big player. speculator will not hold for long only fund manager or investor hold it for long. from fundamental analysis, charter is even worst, based on book value 0.6, the price is a bit high... the p/e ratio is also not so good... but the gross income is really large...i think that is the reason...another reason is the semiconductor indursty...
But we should look forward
Although the current situation for this company is not so good. But its business partners in China is growing. Yesterday, the company announced another cooperation with FuDan. After all the company is the leading companies.

Last time, you mentioned its two rivals in Taiwan. But you know. There is still uncertainty about Taiwan and Mainland. As specialist Yan Xuetong comments once the war start, Taiwan will be the only loser.

Another reason that I think high of this company, it is the company's produces. It will be increasing demand in this times. After all, the worst time for the world economy has passed.

In fact, I just don't think it's a good time to sell this share, when these good news were released. From Chart analysis, even you assume the volume on price-dropping day is from the former buyers. There is still quite a lot shares locked in investors' hands. That's why I don't think it's a good time to sell.

Btw, although I am not very familiar with the real work of these instituational players, I think they should use foundamental and technical analysis at the same time. I don't think there are a lot of people solely depending on either one.
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作者:papaya2001 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:15) 发表:2004-01-08 16:42:04  12楼
Credit default swap.. butwhat is your major?
i know it
a kind of Credit Derivatives.
I major in financial math
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作者:CFA (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:805) 发表:2004-01-08 18:03:51  13楼
sigh...if you are trader you will know whyRegulation should be a big reason. Risk control and internal control are all quite techie, at least VaR is really a mathematical terms. Anyway, computing is really very important even for a trader, unless you want to do paper works, but paper works is extremly boring (at least for me). If you really want to be an analysis, taking a programming course will be necessary. (just my personal view). By the way, what is your background, engineer?
You have made an intelligent guess
Yes, i am an engineer, unfortunately.
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作者:CFA (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:805) 发表:2004-01-08 18:06:33  14楼
But we should look forwardAlthough the current situation for this company is not so good. But its business partners in China is growing. Yesterday, the company announced another cooperation with FuDan. After all the company is the leading companies. Last time, you mentioned its two rivals in Taiwan. But you know. There is still uncertainty about Taiwan and Mainland. As specialist Yan Xuetong comments once the war start, Taiwan will be the only loser. Another reason that I think high of this company, it is the company's produces. It will be increasing demand in this times. After all, the worst time for the world economy has passed. In fact, I just don't think it's a good time to sell this share, when these good news were released. From Chart analysis, even you assume the volume on price-dropping day is from the former buyers. There is still quite a lot shares locked in investors' hands. That's why I don't think it's a good time to sell. Btw, although I am not very familiar with the real work of these i (more...)
Maybe your TA on CSM makes sense, but i will still give it a miss
there are just plenty of other better investement opportunities around, which i am more comfortable with:)
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作者:mobydick (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:326) 发表:2004-01-08 18:49:22  15楼
Maybe your TA on CSM makes sense, but i will still give it a missthere are just plenty of other better investement opportunities around, which i am more comfortable with:)
Yes! Thai Villag is an excellent one! I believe it can even triple this year!
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作者:CFA (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:805) 发表:2004-01-08 20:26:34  16楼
Yes! Thai Villag is an excellent one! I believe it can even triple this year!
Oh Really? You see it from the chart?
Very happy that FA and TA really lead to the same recommendation though I am really not sure if it can become my first three-bagger or not. Sigh, I sold off quite a few counters too early, before they were given a chance to become three-baggers, some even before becoming two-baggers...DMX, JurongTech, Unisteel, .... 55555
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作者:mobydick (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:326) 发表:2004-01-09 11:09:42  17楼 评分:
Oh Really? You see it from the chart?Very happy that FA and TA really lead to the same recommendation though I am really not sure if it can become my first three-bagger or not. Sigh, I sold off quite a few counters too early, before they were given a chance to become three-baggers, some even before becoming two-baggers...DMX, JurongTech, Unisteel, .... 55555
You should be very patient when market is rising
Even if it doesn't rise these days. But you must give those who have already value the share to cumulate targeted quantity. Then you could expect the stock rising. The process should be very boring. But you must be very patient. Genelly, the mistake of most investors at market rising, is they sell it too early. It does make sense.

Image if you sell the share too early, then will you take the money out of market? Of course not, right? So what share do you want to buy?...Maybe the same one after a few days.

So, in TA opinion, you should wait at least till the major trend over.
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作者:不够睡 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:63) 发表:2004-01-12 23:19:51  18楼
I know GY
GY is working in a leading investment bank as a Quan. But he is probably too busy to appear here. Hehe...
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