碧山东第三分区国庆象棋四角赛(7月13日)
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作者:bls (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:222) 发表:2008-07-01 17:19:01  61楼
by the way, if he needs to have hard fight with me, he is not so strong and ...better not for him to go into Top 4. :D I only played with two players in Top 8. You can check with both regarding my games with them.
He not blaming you lah. He blame himself unlucky. You too sensitive.
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作者:2008八连负 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:104) 发表:2008-07-01 17:26:19  62楼
by the way, if he needs to have hard fight with me, he is not so strong and ...better not for him to go into Top 4. :D I only played with two players in Top 8. You can check with both regarding my games with them.
The definition of 对手分, .....

there is one critical point here, .....

for him to get better 对手分 from me, i.e. major points for me, I need to get major points from any of the 9 players (in fact 8 players), My question is more on whether they prefer I am having better major points, the answer is no, so they can't expect to have better 对手分 from me. I hope this is clear now.
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作者:2008八连负 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:104) 发表:2008-07-01 17:46:08  63楼
by the way, if he needs to have hard fight with me, he is not so strong and ...better not for him to go into Top 4. :D I only played with two players in Top 8. You can check with both regarding my games with them.
ok, next time try to get better 对手分 for all (from all) lah ... => lucky.
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作者:chess (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:2) 发表:2008-07-01 20:59:56  64楼
Do you understand, e.g. in cabinet meetings could have different views but ....having same stand when facing the public ..... SIXGA EXCO may need to learn this too.
Come on! Why compare SIXGA to the cabinet? Why make this forum so political?
Is there no freedom of speech here? Are you saying that all your Bishan club EXCO members will present the same view when speaking to anyone, including in any online forums or in any casual meetings? If so, does that mean that we can take any Bishan EXCO member's words as the intention of the entire club? Don't reply with a confident 'YES' yet as you'll never know what your EXCO members might say outside, perhaps just a casual remark in a party/pub?

Do not be too harsh on others as you never know when you'll make the same mistake yourself! Please make peace and allow all chess lovers to ENJOY this site! Thanks in advance! :)
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作者:2008八连负 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:104) 发表:2008-07-01 22:06:14  65楼
Come on! Why compare SIXGA to the cabinet? Why make this forum so political?Is there no freedom of speech here? Are you saying that all your Bishan club EXCO members will present the same view when speaking to anyone, including in any online forums or in any casual meetings? If so, does that mean that we can take any Bishan EXCO member's words as the intention of the entire club? Don't reply with a confident 'YES' yet as you'll never know what your EXCO members might say outside, perhaps just a casual remark in a party/pub? Do not be too harsh on others as you never know when you'll make the same mistake yourself! Please make peace and allow all chess lovers to ENJOY this site! Thanks in advance! :)
please try to read all related postings and not just pick on one point, .......
I just wish to give an example only.

Even in Bishan EXCO, for some matters, if majority agreed but I have my own views, I still have to carry out if it is good for the club. This should be the usual approach, what I really want to bring up is try to have different views discussed in the EXCO meetings instead of outside.

Please refer to

昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法!!! - 棋一生 263 bytes 2008-07-01 09:46 (24 reads)

and I will not discuss this further.
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作者:2008八连负 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:104) 发表:2008-07-01 22:28:00  66楼
please try to read all related postings and not just pick on one point, .......I just wish to give an example only. Even in Bishan EXCO, for some matters, if majority agreed but I have my own views, I still have to carry out if it is good for the club. This should be the usual approach, what I really want to bring up is try to have different views discussed in the EXCO meetings instead of outside. Please refer to 昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法!!! - 棋一生 263 bytes 2008-07-01 09:46 (24 reads) and I will not discuss this further.
For Bishan EXCO members, if they have different views outside, ......

as Acting Chairman of the 4th EXCO, I also hope that they can bring those views back into the EXCO meetings for discussion and try to have common stands, this should be the way for all organisations and nothing to do with politics.
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作者:chess (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:2) 发表:2008-07-01 22:38:13  67楼
please try to read all related postings and not just pick on one point, .......I just wish to give an example only. Even in Bishan EXCO, for some matters, if majority agreed but I have my own views, I still have to carry out if it is good for the club. This should be the usual approach, what I really want to bring up is try to have different views discussed in the EXCO meetings instead of outside. Please refer to 昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法!!! - 棋一生 263 bytes 2008-07-01 09:46 (24 reads) and I will not discuss this further.
I've seen so many ''and I will not discuss this further'' posts by you...
but did you really mean what you say? If you cannot stop putting up MORE POSTS after you say you will stop, then don't promise that you WILL STOP! How do you gain respect from others when you do not mean what you say.

I realised that you get very offensive when others do not agree with you. But note that the world does not revolve around you. Do be more considerate when posting your comments here and do not flood this forum with items to vent your anger (which others may not be interested in). Basically, you always continue arguing about various matters until others are too tired to argue with you. But is the person who always ends last the winner? I believe that everyone here are objective enough to distinguish between right and wrong (especially when we are all chess players with good analytical skills).

A good author can just write few books to gain respect and recognition. A lousy author will not gain recognition regardless of how many books he wrote. If you are right, you just need to write ONE post and others will follow and support you. Else, nobody will bother regardless of how many posts you wrote. Reflect on this and I will not continue to post further posts on this matter EVEN if you refute what I say here.

---A chess player who never reflects will never improve!
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作者:2008八连负 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:104) 发表:2008-07-01 22:46:22  68楼
I've seen so many ''and I will not discuss this further'' posts by you...but did you really mean what you say? If you cannot stop putting up MORE POSTS after you say you will stop, then don't promise that you WILL STOP! How do you gain respect from others when you do not mean what you say. I realised that you get very offensive when others do not agree with you. But note that the world does not revolve around you. Do be more considerate when posting your comments here and do not flood this forum with items to vent your anger (which others may not be interested in). Basically, you always continue arguing about various matters until others are too tired to argue with you. But is the person who always ends last the winner? I believe that everyone here are objective enough to distinguish between right and wrong (especially when we are all chess players with good analytical skills). A good author can just write few books to gain respect and recognition. A lousy author will not gain recognition regardless of ho (more...)
This is a forum, if you do not like to have any exchange, .....

for me, I will decide when to stop, as soon as I have no value in this forum. :)
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作者:棋一生 (等级:15 - 最接近神,发帖:3182) 发表:2008-07-01 23:19:03  69楼 评分:
征集九名有兴趣代表华新网络象棋队的棋友。此次华新网络象棋队受邀参赛,需9名有兴趣比赛的棋友报名。请有兴趣参赛的棋友或者跟帖reply或者email到zcj80@hotmail.com或者致电到90117122。
请不要轻易听信谣言!!!
有些棋友最近不知道从哪里得来的信息,以为象总会长曾经向所有有关的棋会包括他曾经领导过的棋会下达禁令,不准他们出席参与这项赛事。因此,迟迟不敢报名参赛。其实,这个信息完全是捏造的。
今晚他向我澄清,完全没有这回事。象总目前首先所要处理的有以下几项:(一)10月份的亚洲杯象棋赛;(二)象总新理事的就职典礼 ;(三)明年的75周年纪念。象总没有理由也没有时间去干涉棋队之间的赛事。
因此,为了消除棋友们的顾忌,我率先报名充当后补,希望棋友们不要有顾忌,踊跃参与这项赛事。
至于碧山东分区与碧山象棋会彼此之间的恩怨,就有待PA来解决吧!!!
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作者:火云邪神 (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:373) 发表:2008-07-02 01:10:35  70楼 评分:
This is a forum, if you do not like to have any exchange, ..... for me, I will decide when to stop, as soon as I have no value in this forum. :)
智者应寡言,口若悬河不能作为才智的证明
我赞同棋一生大哥所说,无论说的多么富丽堂皇,象棋是一项脑力,智利的竞技。事实胜于雄辩,技不如人,那也只好俯首称臣。象棋对大多数的棋友是兴趣,喜好。为了喜好很多的爱好者都投生狮城象棋的发展。不该时不时把象棋与象棋政治挂钩。这么做侮辱了象棋,也向广大棋友显示了无知。

虽然下棋者无须顶尖,但身为一名对象棋事业认真的棋界领袖,总得能以身做责,方能以德服人。有意见,提出来积思广义是好事。但毕竟论坛不是棋会,把看法留给自身的理事会吧。棋友看论坛是想看棋局探讨,讯息,而不是争论。

望能大家以和为贵,别再让外国网友看到狮城棋坛的丑态。
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作者:林关浩 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:1) 发表:2008-07-02 14:15:44  71楼 评分:
个别理事对某件事的看法,未必一定与“会”的看法相同!!! 大家如果有参加过团体,有担任过团体理事,相信都有这个经验,对于某件事的看法,全体的理事不可能每次都是相同的,一定会有某些理事的看法不同,最终要投票表决。因此,我个人在华新发表的看法,纯粹是我个人的看法,并不是经过理事会通过的看法。 我希望“2008年八连负”,往后不要以“众棋友”的藉口,把我的看法,硬套为“总会的看法”,离间我与总会诸理事的感情,让我背上“莫须有”的罪名。 同时,我也希望“2008年八连负”不要再套用“众棋友”的老套,要敢敢把他们的名字列出,让我有机会向他阐明“会与个人”的关系。 我个人也希望“2008年八连负”往后,能够把大部份的时间和精神,除了一部份用在多关心你的“Boss”之外,如果真的对棋艺有浓厚的兴趣,其他时间可专心用在打谱,提高本身的棋艺,不要再重复“八连负”的败绩。你个人心理上可能感觉无所谓,但有些棋友可能有所谓,那会影响他们的对手分,影响他们的名次。
象总声明
站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。

如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。

今年象总的工作重点如下:
1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼
2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛

在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?!

谢谢!
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作者:卷心菜 (等级:17 - 华新水桶,发帖:11914) 发表:2008-07-02 14:25:55  72楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
坚决支持象总立场!
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作者:棋一生 (等级:15 - 最接近神,发帖:3182) 发表:2008-07-02 14:32:19  73楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
看到象总会长的声明,各位棋友可以放心参赛了吧!!!!!
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作者:一刀n断 (等级:20 - 华新元老,发帖:9771) 发表:2008-07-02 14:39:09  74楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
太强大了 震撼!!!
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作者:张辽 (等级:12 - 登峰造极,发帖:4471) 发表:2008-07-02 15:04:49  75楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
顶一下林会长,及时辟谣非常重要!
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作者:太阳黑子 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:744) 发表:2008-07-02 15:16:49  76楼
太强大了 震撼!!!
太强了,会长都来光顾了
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作者:bls (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:222) 发表:2008-07-02 16:09:54  77楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
Salute!
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作者:Matrix (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:2110) 发表:2008-07-02 18:19:57  78楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
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作者:华新飞剑 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:7) 发表:2008-07-02 23:02:23  79楼
象总声明站在推动棋运的立场,我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此,没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会,会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。 如果会有这方面的流言,这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的!至于,棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿,是否乐意参与比赛,我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径,也不能视为代表象总。 今年象总的工作重点如下: 1) 筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2) 筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛 在此,我呼吁我国广大的棋友们,是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨,来支持以上的两个活动?! 谢谢!
新加坡多只棋队都不附属于新加坡象棋中会吗?

但会长的话终会听的进去吧 !
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作者:杨家小将 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:28) 发表:2008-07-03 12:20:52  80楼
请不要轻易听信谣言!!! 有些棋友最近不知道从哪里得来的信息,以为象总会长曾经向所有有关的棋会包括他曾经领导过的棋会下达禁令,不准他们出席参与这项赛事。因此,迟迟不敢报名参赛。其实,这个信息完全是捏造的。 今晚他向我澄清,完全没有这回事。象总目前首先所要处理的有以下几项:(一)10月份的亚洲杯象棋赛;(二)象总新理事的就职典礼 ;(三)明年的75周年纪念。象总没有理由也没有时间去干涉棋队之间的赛事。 因此,为了消除棋友们的顾忌,我率先报名充当后补,希望棋友们不要有顾忌,踊跃参与这项赛事。 至于碧山东分区与碧山象棋会彼此之间的恩怨,就有待PA来解决吧!!!
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