Could it an improvement to 7+3 method ........
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-10-09 14:11:46  楼主  关注此帖
有个漏洞奖励规则没有说明“三年内两度获奖”是哪年开始计算,以及年的定义是指日期还是年份。
Could it an improvement to 7+3 method ........

so that on average each year can have up to 12 players promoted to Grade B .....

If this is the case, then possible to count from mid 2009 with the introduction of 7+3 method.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-11-30 09:09:55  2楼
召唤报名!还有最后一周的报名时间!如果达不到40人报名的话比赛将被取消!目前只有17位男棋手和3位女棋手报名。 要报名的棋手请迅速报名,或先打电话给陈茂然先生96639627报上名号。
where is 黄建达 ? Top 8 of 新加坡全国象棋锦标赛2009年(第一季) .....

saw the other three Top 8s, namely 廖铭濠 赖俊杰 卷心菜 in the list.

also saw 王印 ZJS HanTing 蔡俊杰 歌神 林家勇 胡伟良 陈靖麟 ......

The ladies 陈茗芳 史琦敏 张育暢 陈靖媗 ... will be invited to join Group B too as not enough players for ladies category.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-11-30 13:03:58  3楼
So the 2009-12 competition is on or not on or unconfirmed? (NM)
the competition is on without notice. whatever information here are unofficial.

the competition is on without notice. whatever information here are unofficial as this is a forum website.

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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-11-30 13:34:50  4楼
What is the reason behind the special number 40 people? (NM)
This is more related to the justification of Fund spent by the sponsor and ...

This is more related to the justification of Fund spent by the sponsor and effort spent by the organiser ...

e.g.

This coming Singapore Open Group B,

Cash prizes -- total of $1,260

trophies -- ?

medals for Grade B -- ?

allowances for workers -- ?

others -- ? (drinking water, refreshment for prize-giving if any, etc ...)

easily, will come to a few thousand, say $2,000 or more.

Even if you use $2,000 to calculate, for 40 players, you need to spend at least $50 on each player.



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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-07 11:35:17  5楼
新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表(总贴)新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表 章程:清晰版PDF文件,请去下面的网址或点击链接 http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/competitions/QuanGuoSai%20DEC2009.pdf 章程 报名表:清晰版PDF文件,请去下面的网址或点击链接 http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/competitions/2009DecQuanguoSaiRegistrationForm.pdf 报名表 (more...)
Any confirmation regarding ...........

Any confirmation regarding the counting for Top 8s ...........

(1) starting Jun/July 2009

(2) starting Dec 2009

(3) starting xxx xxxx

no indication in the rule.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-08 11:48:42  6楼
第五轮对阵表:第一台赵金山先手对廖铭濠 (more...)
In theory, those in the first 16 boards are till having chances ........

In theory, those in the first 16 boards (Top 32), i.e. 1.5 points and above, are till having chances ........

After Round 5 -- first 12 boards (Top 24)

After Round 6 -- first 9 boards (Top 17)

After Round 7 -- first 5 boards (Top 10)

Those with 5 points after Round 7, likely in Top 8, Those with 4.5 points having higher minor scores may enter Top 8 too.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-10 20:42:05  7楼
As per mutual understanding, it should starting June/July 2009
In this case, likely to see 廖明濠, 赖俊杰 and 卷心菜 move into .......

In this case, likely to see 廖明濠, 赖俊杰 and 卷心菜 move into Top 8s (Grade B) in the coming 3 rounds, say one by one on coming Friday, Saturday and Sunday, 11 to 13 Dec 2009 .......

Next week, 18 to 20 Dec 2009, 3 more rounds (knock-out system) for Top 8s to decide the final ranking.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-11 11:44:05  8楼
In this case, likely to see 廖明濠, 赖俊杰 and 卷心菜 move into ....... In this case, likely to see 廖明濠, 赖俊杰 and 卷心菜 move into Top 8s (Grade B) in the coming 3 rounds, say one by one on coming Friday, Saturday and Sunday, 11 to 13 Dec 2009 ....... Next week, 18 to 20 Dec 2009, 3 more rounds (knock-out system) for Top 8s to decide the final ranking.
correction -- 廖铭濠....

correction -- 廖铭濠.

(cut and paste from the wrong place.)
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-11 22:54:13  9楼
新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表(总贴)新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表 章程:清晰版PDF文件,请去下面的网址或点击链接 http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/competitions/QuanGuoSai%20DEC2009.pdf 章程 报名表:清晰版PDF文件,请去下面的网址或点击链接 http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/competitions/2009DecQuanguoSaiRegistrationForm.pdf 报名表 (more...)
Ranking Positions after Round 5 ......
In theory, those in the first 12 boards (Top 24) with 2.5 points and above still have chances to enter Top 8 after Round 7 but a few need to represent team event tomorrow at NUS, .....

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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-11 23:16:54  10楼
Since men/women events is combined, what is the situation for ladies now? (NM)
The three ladies, positions 11, 24 and 30.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-13 22:32:19  11楼
2009年全国个人赛B组第二季:第七轮战罢后全部排名,产生出前八进入淘汰赛第七轮战罢后全部排名,产生出前八进入淘汰赛 (more...)
So far, 3 to be promoted and 2 to 3 more to be decided on 18 Dec .....

From the Pairings of Top 8s

3 to be promoted, namely 廖铭濠 卷心菜 and 胡伟良


another 2 to 3 more from


ZJS HanTing 歌神 林家勇 and the lady 陈茗芳.

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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-14 12:24:00  12楼
Who know the format used in other countries's CHIchess Open (xclude China) ? (NM
If you need to have more details regarding Vietnam 2009 Open in Mar 2009 ...

Please read related posts in ....

3月19日越南2009全国个人赛开战 - 杀着大全 2009-03-14 14:36 (258 bytes , 171 reads )
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-14 12:37:21  13楼
卷心菜兄文才出众,棋力超群,是本地棋坛一位不可多得的人才!这次他再度以高名次荣升八强,但因个人理由而退出比赛,实属可惜。 广大棋迷未能在来临的周末再度欣赏他精湛的棋艺,实属遗憾。
his first good news is this 2009 promotion to Grade B, the next good news ....

his first good news is this 2009 promotion to Grade B, the next good news should be

小卷心菜

not one but

two (hope what I wrote here for him during his marriage in Jun 2009 all come true.)

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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-14 13:58:43  14楼
Found the post, TY. They using 9 + 2 system, 80 min , bonus 30s , USD6k (NM)
9 + 2 system for Top 4 and 9 +1 system for next 8.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-14 15:02:15  15楼
How come the pairing is based on rankings not reshuffled from new numbering? (NM
淘汰赛这种赛制有时会同循环赛制相结合,。。。。。。。

淘汰赛这种赛制有时会同循环赛制相结合,只是在八分之一或四分之一的晋级赛时采用。。。。。


淘汰赛是指体育比赛和其它各种比赛中的一种赛制,在这种赛制中赛员两两相对,输一场即淘汰出局。每一轮淘汰掉一半选手,直至产生最后的冠军。在单淘汰赛制中赛会组委会事先会将全部选手按预赛名次或种子顺序进行编排,也支持部分种子选手直接从中间某轮开始参加比赛的安排(即轮空)。这种赛制简洁明了,对选手数几乎可以不加限制。缺点是偶然性较大。这种赛制有时会同循环赛制相结合,只是在八分之一或四分之一的晋级赛时采用该赛制,如每四年一届的足球世界杯就是采用这种方法。

May be good to do search and learn the various systems if you wish to have more complete picture.

e.g. for Bishan Internal Competition

2003 -- 12 players (Round Robin System) -- 11 rounds
2005 -- 16 players (Round Robin System) -- 15 rounds
2006 -- 24 (Round Robin System by standards) -- 3 groups of 8,8,8. 11 rounds in Phases 1 & 2
2007 -- 20 (Round Robin System by standards)-- 4 groups of 4,6,6,4. 8 rounds in Phases 1 & 2
2008 -- 23 (Round Robin System by standards)-- 4 groups of 6,6,5,6. 8 rounds in Phases 1 & 2
2009 -- 25 (Round Robin System by standards)-- 5 groups of 6,4,5,4,6. 8 rounds in Phases 1 & 2

we are using 分级循环赛制 since 2006 so as to reduce the number of rounds when we have more players and not able to use Round Robin System, Furthermore, we prefer players to play with others about the same standards and not all the players in Round Robin System.

Bishan 分级循环赛制

11 rounds -- 7 rounds in Phase 1 and 4 rounds in Phase 2

8 rounds -- 5 rounds in Phase 1 and 3 rounds in Phase 2

in this Bishan 分级循环赛制, you do not face the same player twice, it is a two-level (Phases 1 & 2) 分级循环赛制.

In Phase 2, lower half of Upper groups to play with upper half of Lower groups, all need to play in Phase 2 except the two ends, this is the reason for us to have 6 players each at two ends in Phase 1 so that minimum of 5 rounds for the two ends if they do not need to play in Phase 2 after the reviews of yearly compettions.

Phase 3 is using 擂台赛 concept depending on the ranking results after Phase 2. We may have 分先 in two games if we need to have 擂台赛 for 2009 Bishan Internal Competition in Jan 2010.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-16 09:34:18  16楼
Positively, at least we have records some where :-) (NM)
http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11220956
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-16 19:11:24  17楼
What does the rule say about ...replacement for a confirmed walkover for the important Top8 matches? ---kurubear
Rule (8) and Rule (12.2) ........

for this 7 + 3 system, heard that

after the first 7 rounds, only Top 8 to be qualified for 3 more rounds for the final ranking.

As for 卷心菜 leave application regarding absence from last 3 rounds (only saw from the pairings for Round 8, do not know about his actual application), will be considered and decided under
Rule (12.2), i.e. whether he is qualified for the final ranking.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-16 22:29:44  18楼
Rule (8) and Rule (12.2) ........ for this 7 + 3 system, heard that after the first 7 rounds, only Top 8 to be qualified for 3 more rounds for the final ranking. As for 卷心菜 leave application regarding absence from last 3 rounds (only saw from the pairings for Round 8, do not know about his actual application), will be considered and decided under Rule (12.2), i.e. whether he is qualified for the final ranking.
卷心菜 has put in a lot of effort to release so much ......

卷心菜 has put in a lot of effort to release so much information regarding the rules and pairings etc ......


新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表(总贴) - 卷心菜 2009-10-08 15:07 (841 bytes , 421reads )

2009年全国个人赛B组第二季:第七轮战罢后全部排名,产生出前八进入淘汰赛 - 卷心菜 2009-12-13 21:18 (175 bytes , 202reads )
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-16 23:26:04  19楼
The 2 posts no mention anything on walkover at TOP8...it just say in normal case these are the rules of selecting TOP8 and for promotion to Grade B player status. ---kurubear
abnormal cases will be covered under Rule 14 for ......

abnormal cases will be covered under Rule 14 for SIXGA to consider and decide, those with concerns should contact SIXGA directly.
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作者:碧山 (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:1430) 发表:2009-12-17 06:41:12  20楼
新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表(总贴)新加坡2009年(第二季)全国象棋锦标赛章程和报名表 章程:清晰版PDF文件,请去下面的网址或点击链接 http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/competitions/QuanGuoSai%20DEC2009.pdf 章程 报名表:清晰版PDF文件,请去下面的网址或点击链接 http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/competitions/2009DecQuanguoSaiRegistrationForm.pdf 报名表 (more...)
could all think from the position of 胡伟良 ........

could all think from the position of 胡伟良.

From the existing rules, only Top 8 of first 7 rounds are qualified for the 3 rounds of Final regardless 卷心菜 withdraw or not. Since the rule did not talk about cases of withdraw for the 3 rounds of Final, any changes now could result in the appeal of 胡伟良.

When we introduce any change, we need to study all points.

I believe SIXGA Committee of this Singapore Open Event (Rule No. 14) has considered all points before the release of pairings for Round 8.

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Last but not least, tomorrow evening, I will go and support the lady player 陈茗芳 and forget about the above issue .....

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