after National Day, this could 激发棋队与棋手们的积极性.

Anyway, not an easy task.

First step is to get enough players, ......

六台六位棋手下一局，三先三后。


张辽 and 卷心菜 please don't think wild. :-)

反而，限制甲乙级人数，感觉大师不受欢迎，新加坡高手没棋下，低手有棋下。

呵呵。高手只能当观众看低手下棋。呵呵。

搞不好这样的大赛常常后几台出现盲子或水棋的，这样好吗？

反而要配称有一点点棋力的无极棋手去下比赛。结果赢冠军的是因为某队有三个得分率高的无极棋手，而非消耗脑汁比较多的甲级/大师。

无级的其实也不差，看看B组的比赛可以知道，有些无级近期对甲级的成绩也不错。盲子或明显水棋的机会不高，应该可以接受。主要的问题不在于无级，而是甲级下场的机会减少。从加大影响的角度来说，增加无级有好处；从甲级的角度来说，比赛越来越少是一种无奈，需要再等候一些时间让棋界作出调整。无级最强的有不少在文礼，所以不论他们6月升了还是没升，对文礼都有利无弊。文礼办这个比赛不易，对于促进象棋也有利，这点便宜大家还是要默许的。

If we look at this issue from another view point ........


6年来参加全国个人赛有级人数：


2003 年 22人；

2004 年 24人；

2005 年 14人；

2006 年 22人；

2007 年 28人；

2008 年 22人。

So, the actual problem is not enough 有级 for the competitions. :(

If we study (e.g. to study those teams joined 全国团体联赛 in 2003 and / or 2004 and those teams did not join in 2003 and 2004) the issue by teams, may surface even more problems. :(

only 22 有级 per year in the past 6 years 全国个人赛, i.e. we need at least 38 无级 for the coming 文礼象棋团体赛 if there are 10 teams.

听你的口气应是棋力有大成之辈，却只是从一个比赛的精彩程度和水平档次看待比赛本身，没有从象棋发展的角度看。如果所有比赛的主办方都为了追求比赛好看且水平高，限制无级参加的人数，无级如何得到锻炼与提高呢？象棋又如何得到发展呢？最后只能后继无人，沦为少数人的游戏。当然如果主办方有足够财力举办9台有级加3台无级的团体赛，无级得到锻炼的人数就不会缩减，也不会有那么多如你所说的没得下棋的“可悲有级”了，只是恐怕一些队伍反倒找不出9个有级，还得拿无级来顶替，你所在意的比赛水平恐怕也难能可观。事情总是难两全。就事论事，不是针对你，言辞激昂之处见谅。

Right, the strong team can send 9个有级 and 3个无级, ............

9个有级 -- can play 3 games each

3个无级 -- play all the 9 games

How many teams can have 9个有级 and also they are free to join ?

By the way, since all 9 rounds need to be completed within 4 days, may be should allow 9个有级 and 9个无级 but each round to have maximum of 3个有级.

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Last but not least, one alternative for 团体赛 is to have Division A, Division B etc for different levels of players, i.e. same as 全国个人赛, but due to not enough 有级 players, SIXGA may have this year 全国个人赛 in one combined division, as in 2005 and 2006.

as mentioned in ....

团体联赛 after 10 years (1995 to 2004), why stop ? the reasons ..........

http://v15.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11009470

狮城杯 in 2004 and 2005 as mentioned above could be a better approach :

-- 2004年甘榜格南第一届狮城杯象棋团体赛 (A组八队，B组十四队，四人)
-- 2005年义顺南第二届狮城杯象棋团体赛 (A组八队，B组十队，四人)

Quite a number of xiangqi clubs need to tackle the following concerns before forming the teams :

(A) Is budget the main concern ?

(B) Is duration too long ?

(C) Is team size of 6 too big ?

Alternatively, the method of 2002年第三届直落亚逸芳林公园民众俱乐部象棋“七雄夺金马“一日循环团体赛(四人)赛制 should be studied in more details, e.g you can have A组七队，B组七队 to complete in one day of 3 rounds (文礼's schedule also has 3 rounds on the first Sunday, 16 Aug 2009), 四人， 五人 or 六人 (i.e. total of 八人， 十人 or 十二人 in two sub-teams each round, can have another few players as reserve) is not the main concern. The 七雄 in 2002 had learned the method.

For “七雄夺金马“ method, 九队 in 4 rounds and 十一队 in 5 rounds and we need to have 2 days only.

May be it is not too late for 文礼 to consider “七雄夺金马“ method as I believe more teams can join with one or two days.

棋赛制度 do not need to change : --

----（1）采单循环制；
----（2）星期六下两场，星期日下三场；
----（3）每局八十分钟加三十秒，每位棋手下一局；
----（4) 棋赛规则与成绩计算采亚洲棋规。

棋手人数 depending on 四人， 五人 or 六人 (i.e. total of 八人， 十人 or 十二人 in two sub-teams each round, can have another few players as reserve)

Also can consider A组 for 有级 (or no condition ?) and B组 for 无级 (and Grade B ?).

我认为当然让每队跑最快的四位比赛比较有理。同理可征，象棋也应该如此。当然，欢迎拥有比有级更强的无极下场。我是说，最好别限制级别，谁强谁下场。同意吗?

'文礼办这个比赛不易，对于促进象棋也有利，这点便宜大家还是要默许的。'

但如果把限制拿掉，让自由市场决定有级和无极人数，我会对主办单位的体育和推广象棋精神佩服得五体投地。