(引用 一刀n断:个人觉得林超贤第5轮那局很好看7轮比赛过后能否发个新科乙级特辑？记录B组前四名的7轮争战历程？)是啊，能看到超贤表演当然过瘾咯[火云邪神 (6-16 10:49, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]61楼
(引用 卷心菜:HOT！2008年个人赛B组第七轮排阵！第一台许永坤先手迎战刘广强 ...)排阵表有个typo.应该是第7轮而不是第5轮。[火云邪神 (6-16 10:54, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]62楼
从第七轮B组对阵图看，最多可能出现7人同积5.5分，需要比小分[卷心菜 (6-16 10:54, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]63楼
(引用 一刀n断:个人觉得林超贤第5轮那局很好看7轮比赛过后能否发个新科乙级特辑？记录B组前四名的7轮争战历程？)改天拿到对局记录再补上！！！[棋一生 (6-16 11:01, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]64楼
(引用 棋一生:如怀疑某棋手故意弃权；下假棋，提出来讨论，那也不失为一件好事！！！ 心里有怀疑，提出来讨论，让对方有解释的机会，消除彼此的误会
...)下假棋 ? I believe that bls is not talking in this direction ......
since you bring up this matter, this is one area that the organiser(s) need to look into for solution(s) if possible.
This is also the reason for me to bring up 8 + 1 instead of 7 + 2 after 几度 asked the question of 7 + 2 or 8 + 1 for “瑞士结合淘汰一局制” but it may be too late to change since the schedule has covered 7 + 2 method.
In China, some events are using x + 1 method.
SIXGA EXCO may wish to discuss after 2008 event regarding 9 + 0 , 8 + 1 or 7 + 2 for 2009 National Open. Of course, it is almost impossible to find a perfect solution, I guess.
[棋人生 (6-16 11:08, Long long ago)]
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(引用 卷心菜:从第七轮B组对阵图看，最多可能出现7人同积5.5分，需要比小分)卷心菜, you still have a slim chance if ......
no draw for boards 1 & 2, draw for boards 3 & 4, and you win; then 1 or 2 players with 5 points with higher minor scores can reach Top 4.
[棋人生 (6-16 11:20, Long long ago)]
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(引用 卷心菜:从第七轮B组对阵图看，最多可能出现7人同积5.5分，需要比小分)去年B组三人5分出线，而今年7轮拿5分的可能一个也出不了线。1.前两台都分出胜负加上3，4台下成和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->2个6分，1个5.5分，5到9人5分，小分最高的5分出线
2.前两台都分出胜负加上3，4台下成和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方未胜->2个6分，0个5.5分，5到10人5分，2个小分最高的5分出线
3.前两台都分出胜负加上3，4台一台和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->2个6分，2个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
4.前两台都分出胜负加上3，4台没有和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->2个6分，3个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
5.前两台一台分出胜负加上3，4台下成和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->1个6分，3个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
6.前两台一台分出胜负加上3，4台一台和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->1个6分，4个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
7.前两台一台分出胜负加上3，4台没有和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->1个6分，5个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
8.前两台都和棋加上3，4台下成和棋+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->5个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
9.前两台都和棋加上3，4台都分出胜负+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->7个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
10.前两台都和棋加上3，4台中一台胜负+第五台积4.5分的一方获胜->6个5.5分，5分全部淘汰
还有10多种情况不再一一列举。
总而言之:积4.5分者只有获胜，如果和棋的话90%被淘汰
积5分者需要仔细计算自己的对手分，并且希望第7轮中之前对过的六个对手都取胜，然后决定要和还是要胜。[卷心菜 (6-16 11:30, Long long ago)]
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(引用 卷心菜:3 more rounds, can get 0.5 to 3 points)if I get 9 连负 in 2008, then I can have a few plans .....
(1) to have closed door training for 3 years before say 2011 (after 60 years old) National Open at SIXGA;
(2) it should be easier for me to get better result in 2009 or 2010 at Boon Lay;
(3) to look for some numbers and buy TOTO now.... :D[棋人生 (6-16 11:36, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:如怀疑某棋手故意弃权；下假棋，提出来讨论，那也不失为一件好事！！！ 心里有怀疑，提出来讨论，让对方有解释的机会，消除彼此的误会
...)Thankyou 棋一生。 Let me explain more.Actually I do not mean anyone playing kelong. I just had the impression that since 几度 have time to login and discuss in forum during day time and night time, then his workload be quite light and be able to reach the CC before 8. Then I heard some chess players talking about his predictable frequent late during competition, thats why I post my message in hope to understand the real situation. I regret my kapo-ness and my tone in the message is not polite.
I agree that there are always last minute work to do. Its just coincidence that 几度 got stuck in last minute work during the first 4 rounds. I also realised I have cause much distress to many forumers here. I wish to offer my apology again.[bls (6-16 11:39, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋人生:卷心菜, you still have a slim chance if ......
no draw for boards 1 & 2, draw for boards 3 & 4, and you win; then 1 or 2 players...)my chance is 0%no draw for boards 1 & 2, draw for boards 3 & 4, and I win + all my previous 6 opponent win to increase my 小分。
Now here is the contradiction:
draw for boards 3 & 4 = I am expecting Kong Jingwen to draw with Wang Yin
all my previous 6 opponent win to increase my 小分 = I am expecting Kong Jingwen to win to increase my 小分
Therefore my chance is 0% after 2 draws on round 5 & 6.
However my initial target is top 25 in div B. To achieve this, I need 5 points. Now with 4 points, I need to have another win in the remaining 3 rounds. By the way, I am still requesting my "boss" to let me play on round 8 instead of 弃权 as I mentioned 1 month ago. I will definately be playing on round 9.[卷心菜 (6-16 11:40, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:如怀疑某棋手故意弃权；下假棋，提出来讨论，那也不失为一件好事！！！ 心里有怀疑，提出来讨论，让对方有解释的机会，消除彼此的误会
...)让下一任的理事来探讨这个课题吧！！！ 我个人认为，从制度上来解决这个问题，只能治标，不能治本。要澈底解决这个问题，必须从棋手们的思想着手。
我个人的思想是：如果我放水让一个不够资格的棋手进入前三甲，让他代表国家出赛时丢人现眼，那我将有愧于国家。棋手们应该明白，放水让友人夺标，不只是两个人的事，那是国家大事。放水让友人在国际赛出丑，对朋友，对国家，你良心过意得去吗？另外，别人放水让你夺标，和你用钱向别人买奖牌一样，是一件非常可耻的事。希望棋友们，能够明白这个道理。
请祭出你们“亮剑”的精神，不要下假棋！！！
这一次卢国龙虽然不能进入前四名，但我从他下的棋里，看到了他那股强烈求胜的“亮剑”精神！！！[棋一生 (6-16 11:48, Long long ago)]
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(引用 卷心菜:my chance is 0%no draw for boards 1 & 2, draw for boards 3 & 4, and I win + all my previous 6 opponent win to increase my 小分。...)Your chance is > 0, can do another calculation after the standing table is out[棋人生 (6-16 11:58, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]72楼
(引用 棋人生:下假棋 ? I believe that bls is not talking in this direction ......
since you bring up this matter, this is one area that the or...)x + 1 method is pretty good.Actually x+1 method serves the purpose of tie-breaking instead of comparing minor points
Especially for the women div, these years we can see 三驾马车 or sometimes even 四架马车 leading with same points.
x + 1 method is pretty good.[卷心菜 (6-16 12:05, Long long ago)]
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居安思危：如果明年棋一生复出参赛+棋人生闭关修炼+卷心菜忙于结婚，谁能接任The comment from most of the players for the immediatle chess info on this forum is very positive. 从10多岁的学生到60多岁的老棋手，都有人来华新网找资料，看棋讯。
居安思危：如果明年全国赛棋一生复出参赛+棋人生闭关修炼+卷心菜出差or结婚，谁能接任报道新加坡重大象棋赛事的任务。[卷心菜 (6-16 12:20, Long long ago)]
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(引用 火云邪神:是啊，能看到超贤表演当然过瘾咯)他的对手也是不错的=P 只是运气差了点[一刀n断 (6-16 12:20, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]75楼
(引用 卷心菜:居安思危：如果明年棋一生复出参赛+棋人生闭关修炼+卷心菜忙于结婚，谁能接任The comment from most of the players for the immediatle ...)明年再看 现在言之为时过早 届时总会有人报道的~~[一刀n断 (6-16 12:21, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]76楼
(引用 棋一生:A组第六轮（1）：胡海宇表现失常，十七个回合败下阵来！！！图一：康德荣胜胡海宇 图二：梁永兴胜洪天瑞
图三：梁文杰胜姚威和
...)也不是失常，只是太累了。前一段都挺累的，只是忙到一肚子火，转换成动力，所以还撑住了。大概是到昨天稍微松懈了一下，于是立刻觉得很困，算度平均少了3-4步。当然，没有时间准备这个比赛也是个问题。
[几度 (6-16 12:59, Long long ago)]
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(引用 Eteng:请教bls是谁？一刀n断说得对，如果您看谁不爽的话可以直接在棋盘上较量，没有必要在这边 搬弄是非 挑拨离间
)Eteng也过火了谢谢帮我说话，不过道理是道理，实力是实力。不能面对批评而要求单挑，那和讲理不通就动拳头也差不多了。所谓不会下蛋也会吃蛋，实力或者一时的成绩，跟有没有道理其实不能挂钩。这个世界上，迷信权威的事情本来就太多了，我们也不用去再增加一点吧。
[几度 (6-16 13:04, Long long ago)]
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(引用 bls:My sincere apology to 几度 and all.I am sorry that my comment create such upset. My apology. I didn't know 几度 is a busy man as...)That's alright.It's true that I was quite free when I posted a lot a few weeks ago, and I didn't expected to become suddenly so busy. Anyway, I never felt unhappy about your criticism, and hope we can understand each other better in the future.
[几度 (6-16 13:08, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:如怀疑某棋手故意弃权；下假棋，提出来讨论，那也不失为一件好事！！！ 心里有怀疑，提出来讨论，让对方有解释的机会，消除彼此的误会
...)我非常同意这一句！“我个人认为bls的出发点是好的”。所以我不介意bls对我的批评。他的批评不能说完全没有道理，其他的部分大概也就是误会吧。
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