现在高警戒二阶段，比二阶段严格一点单调的意思，就是到了二阶段不回头高警戒二阶段。到了三阶段不回头到二阶段。完全放开后，不回头三阶段。
下一个放松时间可以推迟一点，但不能回退，除非医疗挤兑。
小回退就是小打脸，大回退（或连续回退2次）就是大打脸。
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(引用 andy99:有些行业因为疫情变得更繁荣了啊不少高科技的，互联网的等等。
普通需要近距离跟人接触的服务业，才是受负面影响的大头。
新加坡引进技�...)是啊，所以看问题要全面啊WFH，发钱，大利股市， 那么是不是所有人都不上班，发纾困金，就解决问题了？
脑子是用来思考的[笑天 (8-7 16:08, Long ago)]
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不说未来坚持开放不回退，一步一步做，不好高骛远，给某些人虚假幻想才是实际做法。
病毒共存模式，不要多谈，要在具体政策中慢慢摸索，而不是公开场合不停强调，或者用花招吓唬没打疫苗的去打疫苗。
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(引用 andy99:上面有人说要走啊没有几全齐美的事情。
现实是残酷的。
年轻一辈进入互联网，高薪了，也算是赶上好日子了。这也算是运气和命。早一批出生...)建议争取找机会喝咖啡下届选议员，进zf
这里指点江山，毫无疑义[笑天 (8-7 16:11, Long ago)]
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(引用 笑天:是啊，所以看问题要全面啊WFH，发钱，大利股市， 那么是不是所有人都不上班，发纾困金，就解决问题了？
脑子是用来思考的)疫情没办法的，利好一部分，另一部分不利好但这不是关键，而是某些政策导致的结果。
要怎么做，才是关键。而不是怎么说。
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(引用 笑天:建议争取找机会喝咖啡下届选议员，进zf 这里指点江山，毫无疑义)我不需要，也不可能中国的某些在本地的智库，干不好还给踢走，然后事件上新闻呢。 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [andy99 (8-7 16:14, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]66楼
现在这一小步政策，包括8月19号，问题不大。关键是后续几个月。
死硬不回退，才是问题。
继续看。
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现在还是收收放放当中放的阶段，包括今天未来只放不收，才是问题。
这是关键。
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对了其实用脚投票俺有点不明白啥意思俺昨天看到这个词就感觉不太懂呵呵 [本文发送自华新iOS APP] [Blzrd (8-7 16:16, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]69楼
未来退了，我也不回说精英们怂了因为我根本不相信，不回回退。 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [andy99 (8-7 16:17, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]70楼
(引用 andy99:疫情没办法的，利好一部分，另一部分不利好但这不是关键，而是某些政策导致的结果。
要怎么做，才是关键。而不是怎么说。)一句话， 因为疫情在BBS指点江山的基本就是暴露自己的焦虑和恐慌
不要以为自己看到的，想到的就是全部， 遑论正确与错误！
就是这个意思
毫无意义的评论和观点， 除了发泄焦虑，就是毫无意义[笑天 (8-7 16:18, Long ago)]
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(引用 笑天:一句话， 因为疫情在BBS指点江山的基本就是暴露自己的焦虑和恐慌
不要以为自己看到的，想到的就是全部， 遑论正确与错误！
就是这个意思
...)我没焦虑我本人也不爱好户外运动。
当然开放了，我也不会说就不那么高兴了。
反正就是，下一代是否在新加坡生孩子，堪忧咯。。。。
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[andy99 (8-7 16:20, Long ago)]
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(引用 笑天:一句话， 因为疫情在BBS指点江山的基本就是暴露自己的焦虑和恐慌
不要以为自己看到的，想到的就是全部， 遑论正确与错误！
就是这个意思
...)我没焦虑我本人也不爱好户外运动。
当然开放了，我也不会说就不那么高兴了。
反正就是，下一代是否在新加坡生孩子，堪忧咯。。。。
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说真的，俺现在焦虑的是中国奥运金牌能不能守住第一看我别的帖子发言就知道了。
那是真焦虑啊，一直要到明天下午大局已定了才能结束。
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政府是深思熟虑的在现有数据的基础上做的决定。相信如果本地（或欧美）的孩童数据恶化，会收紧政策的。
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卫生部医药服务总监麦锡威副教授今天（8月6日）在抗疫跨部门工作小组记者会指出，上述两家医院自去年3月起开始针对照顾年幼孩童及青少年冠病病患展开研究。参与研究的259名病患年龄介于两个月至18岁。
研究发现，当中有不少孩童是从同住家属受感染，此外，每五名孩童当中有一人有相关疾病。
所有确诊孩童中有将近一半出现症状，但大部分都只出现呼吸道感染或发烧等轻微症状。此外，没有孩童出现呼吸困难、需要输氧或入住加护病房的情况。
研究也发现，这些孩童复诊时没有出现冠病后综合症。
麦锡威提醒，尽管本地确诊冠病的孩童占少数，但国外出现确诊孩童入住加护病房甚至死亡的情况。“庆幸的是，我们没有这种情况，但马来西亚和印度尼西亚等邻国都有孩童在确诊冠病后死亡。”[Broadway (8-7 16:38, Long ago)]
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(引用 Broadway:政府是深思熟虑的在现有数据的基础上做的决定。相信如果本地（或欧美）的孩童数据恶化，会收紧政策的。
-------------------------------...)Long-lasting Covid-19 symptoms rare in childrenFewer than one in 20 (4%) were found to have experienced symptoms for four weeks or more, with one in 50 (2%) having symptoms for more than eight weeks.
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Ref:https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58071898
Children who become ill with coronavirus rarely experience long-term symptoms, with most recovering in less than a week, research suggests.
King's College London scientists say that while a small group may experience prolonged illness, they were "reassured" that number was low.
Headaches and tiredness were the most common symptoms seen.
A Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health expert said the data reflected what doctors saw in clinics.
Many who are infected do not develop symptoms and those that do, tend to have a mild illness.
This peer-reviewed study, published in the Lancet Child and Adolescent Health journal, wanted to understand how Covid affected children and how it compared to other respiratory diseases.
It used data provided by parents or carers to the UK Zoe Covid Study app.
The study looked at 1,734 children, aged between five and 17, who were reported to have developed symptoms and tested positive for Covid between September 2020 and February 2021.
The researchers say it's very difficult to know how many children were infected during this time period as the four UK nations record data differently, but they estimate more than 400,000 children and young people tested positive.
Fewer than one in 20 (4%) were found to have experienced symptoms for four weeks or more, with one in 50 (2%) having symptoms for more than eight weeks.
The most common symptoms reported were headaches and tiredness. Others included a sore throat and loss of smell.
On average, older children were typically ill for slightly longer than primary school children, with those aged between 12 and 17 taking a week to recover while for younger children the illness lasted five days.
It's the scientists hope that these findings will reassure families, while also validating those who have experienced prolonged illness.
'Listen to families'
The team also looked at an equal number of children who had symptoms but tested negative for Covid.
Only a few children - 15 out of 1,734 - had symptoms for at least 28 days, fewer than one in 100.
Emma Duncan, professor of clinical endocrinology at King's College London who worked on the research, said the "takeaway message" was: "Can children have prolonged illness after Covid-19? Yes they can, but it's not common and most of these children get better with time.
"Children can also have prolonged symptoms from other illnesses as well. We need to be looking after all children who have protracted illnesses, irrespective of whether that illness is Covid-19 or anything else."
Dr Michael Absoud, a consultant in paediatric neurodisability at Evelina London Children's Hospital and a senior author of the study, says it's important to listen to families who say their children have symptoms.
"If you are concerned about your child, the first thing you need to do is go to your GP and describe your particular symptoms," he explains.
"They can provide information or refer you to a paediatrician. It's important to remember there may be something else going on.
"If they think it is related to Covid, there are NHS clinics dedicated to providing advice on how to approach this. Hopefully they will be properly funded to support this small proportion of children."
Dr Liz Whittaker, infectious disease lead at the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health who was not involved in the research, said: "This study is reassuring for the majority of children and young people who develop Sars-CoV-2 infection, and reflects what paediatricians are seeing in clinical practice."[Broadway (8-7 16:55, Long ago)]
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-------------------------------...)Long COVID and kids: scientists race to find answers从数据上讲，确实还没彻底研究明白，需要走一步看一步
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01935-7
He and his colleagues have been taking blood samples from secondary-school children in Dresden since May 2020 to track rates of infection. In March and April this year, surveys were taken from more than 1,500 children — nearly 200 of whom had antibodies indicating previous SARS-CoV-2 infection — to see how many reported long COVID.
In May, Armann’s group reported in a preprint that it found no difference in rates of symptoms reported by the two groups3. “This was kind of striking,” says Armann, and suggests that long COVID in children is probably lower than some studies have indicated. That doesn’t mean that long COVID doesn’t exist in children, he says, but it does mean the number is probably below 10%, a level that would have been picked up in the study. The true figure is perhaps as low as 1%, he says.[Broadway (8-7 17:05, Long ago)]
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除了医疗挤兑，还有什么其他参数需要参考的？我想不到了。。。[阿拉玛 (8-7 17:19, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]78楼
这么多不想reopen的人你们都是不食人间疾苦的土豪吗？。。。[阿拉玛 (8-7 17:21, Long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]79楼
(引用 南勍:层主多读点书吧子击出，遭田子方于道，下车伏谒。子方不为礼。子击怒，谓子方曰：“富贵者骄人乎？贫贱者骄人乎？”子方曰：“亦贫贱者骄...)读书要活学活用新加坡高薪养廉，部长们到现在这个层次，这辈子要花的钱早就赚够了。你呢？
不排除有个别能够在任何国家都能生活的很好的人，但是绝大多数即使是接受过高等教育的人，换个环境都不是容易的事。[mltt (8-7 17:47, Long ago)]
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