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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-18 23:50:05  楼主  关注此帖
How many teams are there today?What are the results? Thanks.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-19 00:24:09  2楼 评分:
张辽一平一负输于碧山某少年棋手(棋谱)士角炮对左炮过宫 1. 炮二平四 炮8平4 2. 马二进三 马8进7 3. 车一平二 车9进1 4. 马八进七 车9平6 5. 士六进五 象3进5 6. 兵七进一 车6进3 7. 车二进四 车6平4 8. 炮四平六 炮4进5 9. 炮八平六 车4进2 10. 车九平八 炮2进4 11. 马七进六 马2进1 12. 兵七进一 车1平2 13. 兵七平八 炮2平3 14. 炮六平八 炮3平2 15. 炮八平九 炮2平3 16. 兵九进一 马1退3 17. 相七进五 卒7进1 18. 车八进三 炮3退1 19. 车八平六 炮3平8 20. 炮九平八 车2平1 21. 马六进七 士4进5 22. 兵三进一 炮8退2 23. 马七退八 卒7进1 24. 相五进三 马3进4 25. 车六进二 车1平3 26. 相三退五 车3进6 27. 炮八平六 车3平2 28. 炮六进四 炮8平4 29. 车六进一 车2退1 30. 车六平九 车2退1 31. 车九退一 过宫炮对进卒 1. 炮二平六 卒7进1 2. 马二进三 马8进7 3. 车一平二 车9平8 4. 车二进四 炮8平9 5. 车二平四 马2进3 6. 兵七进一 象3进5 7. 马八进七 炮2进4 8. 马七进八 炮2平7 9. 相七进五 士4进5 10. (more...)
15岁少年会员洪福阳(内部赛丙组冠军)取得第 22名,可喜可贺。
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-19 00:35:21  3楼
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-19 14:31:57  4楼
你两盘都是后手对到同一个人?好像没有深算啊,呵呵。象第2局,黑13、14回合,如果先走车2进3捉马,应该是能抢攻在前的。20回合也可以考虑马8进7,车四退一,马7进6,车四退二,车8平3,不过红车四进七或兵七进一,局面就很乱了。21回合还是可以车2进3的。28回合车2进8随手,应车3进2,帅五进一,车3退3准备车3平7,黑可以防守。一念之差,胜负易手。
Bishan Round 1 后手.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-19 17:48:09  5楼
两盘刚好对上同一个人,叫啥不知道第二盘觉得弃子有棋,就走了。当时忽视了退炮打车之后,红车塞象眼的威胁。不然的话就现走车2进3了,呵呵
洪福阳,16岁。
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 00:10:17  6楼 评分:
2007年白沙东象棋团体赛对局记录:2007-11-18
陈中和 won 棋人生, 郑海光 lost to 姚威和 ...

陈中和 won 棋人生, 郑海光 lost to 姚威和

Queenstown vs Bishan.


陈中和 may wish to put up the game, otherwise, I will try to put up later.

just a short note : may be better for me to let 陈中和 to force a draw after less than 15 moves as he has used up more than 30 minutes and I used less than 10 minutes, must learn from this game to have a better control in future, good play by 陈中和.

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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 07:56:11  7楼 评分:
陈中和 won 棋人生, 郑海光 lost to 姚威和 ... 陈中和 won 棋人生, 郑海光 lost to 姚威和 Queenstown vs Bishan. 陈中和 may wish to put up the game, otherwise, I will try to put up later. just a short note : may be better for me to let 陈中和 to force a draw after less than 15 moves as he has used up more than 30 minutes and I used less than 10 minutes, must learn from this game to have a better control in future, good play by 陈中和.
Bishan Players ....

This time Bishan sent 15 players with 14 players in the ground, i.e. only the team leader not playing.

the 5 graded players played 7 boards and scored 4 points only (with 2 major points counted).
the 9 non-graded players played 13 boards and scored 15 points (with 8 major points counted).

So, we scored 10 major points and 19 board points.

We were satisfied with the same ranking position of 8th as in Albert Square, a closer look at it, we missed a good chance of say at least in 3rd position as total of 7 teams with major points between 12 to 9.

to try harder next time .......
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 11:54:24  8楼
郑海光对姚威和一局还是挺精彩的。他们下大棋盘,我在台下看了看,印象是对攻激烈,变化复杂。当时我正忙着对益南,因而不敢深算。哪位棋友可以帮忙找他们两位把棋局和自评放上来?
郑海光 has a family tour, someone needs to get help from 姚威和 ...
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 15:30:56  9楼 评分:
陈中和 won 棋人生, 郑海光 lost to 姚威和 ... 陈中和 won 棋人生, 郑海光 lost to 姚威和 Queenstown vs Bishan. 陈中和 may wish to put up the game, otherwise, I will try to put up later. just a short note : may be better for me to let 陈中和 to force a draw after less than 15 moves as he has used up more than 30 minutes and I used less than 10 minutes, must learn from this game to have a better control in future, good play by 陈中和.
The first 11 moves when Red is thinking to force a draw with .....

车六平四 and 车四平六, could 陈中和 help to check and complete the whole game.


1. 炮二平五 炮8平5 2. 马二进三 马8进 7
3. 车一进一 车9进1 4. 车一平六 炮2平3
5. 炮八进四 车9平3 6. 炮八平五 马7进 5
7. 炮五进四 士4进5 8. 车九进二 象3进1
9. 车九平六 车3退1 10. 车六平四 炮3平2 (forgot about 前后车, should be后车.)
11. 车六平四 将5平4 12. 车四平六 ……. (forgot about 前后车, should be前车.)
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 17:03:38  10楼
棋人生这个布局明显是欺着嘛!炮2平3、车9平3都是欺着。这种棋至少亏了4-5先。比赛这样下未免过分。幸好输了。:P
Thanks to 几度, could not concentrate on the game as ...

quite a few matters not related to the game need to be cleared on that day, but still need to play when asked.

must learn how to concentrate on the game when playing ...
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 20:38:01  11楼
得看对手。红这局进攻方向正确,黑不好走。起双横车抢肋道的计划是不能实现的。可能要车9平6,将来必要时士6进5。车9平3会亏大本,所以我说是欺着。
should have 车9平3 instead of 炮2平3, then can have ....
马2进3 or 马2进4 later, 炮2平3 is blocking the way for 马2进3 .... anyway, I am just trying and learning .... but should not try during the competition.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-20 20:50:32  12楼 评分:
2007年白沙东象棋团体赛对局记录:2007-11-18
Detailed Results of all 110 Boards ......












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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-21 10:56:39  13楼
车9平3,红可以炮八进四或把三路马跳出来踩中卒,黑也不好走。主要是将来不得不走士4进5,则将门被红车控制。
the next time when we meet at SIXGA, may be 几度 has times to teach me ..
from Move 4 (I will use 车9平3 instead of 炮2平3) and 马2进3 or 马2进4 later if I have a chance.

Just to share a secret, I know who is 陈中和, and I know all these young players are very good, so before 车9平 8 in Move 3, I decided to change to 车9进1, since then I purposely used some new moves and it was very effective (of course only for this game) and he used more than 30 minutes for the first 10 Moves. Actually, for this game, I should leave it with a draw at Move 12.

Next time must have some practices before trying new move .....
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-21 13:09:53  14楼
客气了车9平3后,出路不畅,总要亏一些的。如果抱着让对方2-3先的心理,又走得精确的话,可能还可以吧。只是下指导棋没问题,在团体赛这样下相当冒险。要走横车对横车,单提马的布阵比较容易走。要顺炮横车对横车,可能不要急于车9平3,先马2进3或卒7进1较好。黑车有平3、平6以及车1进1后车9平4邀兑的选择。炮2平3再车9平3,我说欺着是开玩笑,不过这两着加在一起,是很大的失误。
Yes, 炮2平3 followed by 车9平3, very bad moves, ....

only that his first 11 moves followed my thinkings, definitely not in future games as now all friends at 悟入棋途 know can kill me so easily if I have the above moves... hihi
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-23 06:43:52  15楼
May be is reason behind ! Other teams had put more focus on Boonlay ,White sand A/B and ended up 义顺南,甘邦格南 break through. This can be analysis from 棋人生 posted articles "detailed Results of all 110 Boards". Don't misunderstand that i am saying that their team are no good but is less challenge due to less focus. Juz my points of views.
Welcome back. The score of one board could affect a lot ........
e.g. if smmasing won 李勇, Bishan could move up to 3rd position.

At all times, I do not consider this one day 2 rounds (2 boards) type of team competition could really show the standard level of all teams except if you are really the first team or last team, e.g. Catholic (at another level, my separate note on this too.).

But due to budget and time, this one day team event is still the "best way" for Singapore xiangqi clubs currently ???!!!

Actually, in my separate postings, I did suggest to use a 4 boards method one-day event, i.e. you need to have 4 boards between two teams ....

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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-23 10:04:50  16楼
Welcome back. Where is your brother 齐天大圣 ? We need ....
two of you to join back so that we can have more than hundred changes per person in 悟入棋途, i.e. 36 major changes and 72 minor changes.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-23 10:41:10  17楼
Welcome back. The score of one board could affect a lot ........e.g. if smmasing won 李勇, Bishan could move up to 3rd position. At all times, I do not consider this one day 2 rounds (2 boards) type of team competition could really show the standard level of all teams except if you are really the first team or last team, e.g. Catholic (at another level, my separate note on this too.). But due to budget and time, this one day team event is still the "best way" for Singapore xiangqi clubs currently ???!!! Actually, in my separate postings, I did suggest to use a 4 boards method one-day event, i.e. you need to have 4 boards between two teams .... http://bbs.huasing.org/bbs.php?B=123_10951092
Another good method is the World Cup method, i.e. to have e.g. 11 teams of ....
10 players each with 5 graded and 5 non-graded to play under the individuals sydtem, after 2 or 3 rounds of 60 minutes system or 4 or 5 rounds of 30 minutes system, to sum up the scores of all 10 members under the same team, this could be a better way to rate the standard in the same competition.

For Round 1, we could have a random pairing but also to ensure graded play with non-graded and all 10 opponent players are from 10 different team. The pairing of Round 2 and after will be handled by software totally.

If due to budget problem, we could use this method for 全国选区象棋团体赛 in future. In this way, we may not have individual prizes and only the team prizes.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-23 11:44:42  18楼
2007 Internal Competition, 洪福阳(2006丙组冠军)starts from 乙组 ...
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-11-24 23:19:33  19楼
哈哈..水落石出..别以为蚂蚁的出现,多啦A梦不见哦...以后别硬凹说我是蚂蚁喔..!
haha, it is your duties to prove that you are not, I can't have the conclusion..
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