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作者:花露水 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:80) 发表:2003-01-16 00:42:41  楼主  关注此帖
我有意见,疑问也行
为什么在信息版,卖书的广告也能置顶?难道是因为他照片拍的很美?还是因为作者给了华新赞助,所以可以登广告?

请给个合理解释,谢谢!
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作者:乖乖天 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:102) 发表:2003-01-16 00:49:58  2楼
知道一件事就行了
在信息版,什么事都可能发生
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作者:乖乖天 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:102) 发表:2003-01-16 00:55:26  3楼
知道一件事就行了在信息版,什么事都可能发生
没注意..原来
斑竹上线了几次就是来给卖书的朋友置顶的
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作者:张翠山 (等级:0 - 我是小白,发帖:75) 发表:2003-01-16 01:21:54  4楼
真正该置顶的没有...
比如NUS,NTU各大FTP地址.......
尤其对于那些少上华新的人
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作者:administrator (等级:?? - 无法无天,发帖:2491) 发表:2003-01-16 09:22:10  5楼
I also feel inappropriate. thx for the reminder
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作者:skysun (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:11918) 发表:2003-01-16 09:27:03  6楼
卖书买书....我的开学版......:'(
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作者:Spring (等级:6 - 驾轻就熟,发帖:6732) 发表:2003-01-16 10:11:39  7楼
为什么大家总是对这个置顶那个置顶有意见呢?
置顶一两天又如何?

其实他也相当于提供信息嘛,不过可以说是卖信息罢了.
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作者:Flying (等级:18 - 华新水车,发帖:16849) 发表:2003-01-16 10:51:49  8楼
It may not be useful to you...
But to others? What's so harmful to put it on top for some time?
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作者:notice (等级:0 - 我是小白,发帖:106) 发表:2003-01-16 11:08:40  9楼
It may not be useful to you...But to others? What's so harmful to put it on top for some time?
It may be no problem...
but how can he do nothing with other articles, and only put that article on the top???
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作者:Flying (等级:18 - 华新水车,发帖:16849) 发表:2003-01-16 11:12:18  10楼
It may be no problem...but how can he do nothing with other articles, and only put that article on the top???
Why not?
Are you referring to so-called "fairness" here? In my opinion, it is on the moderator's discrete to determine if a post is valuable enough be to pushed to top. One may doubt the the value, as it is subjective anyway, but there is no reason to say "难道是因为他照片拍的很美?还是因为作者给了华新赞助,所以可以登广告?"
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作者:notice (等级:0 - 我是小白,发帖:106) 发表:2003-01-16 11:23:07  11楼 评分:
Why not?Are you referring to so-called "fairness" here? In my opinion, it is on the moderator's discrete to determine if a post is valuable enough be to pushed to top. One may doubt the the value, as it is subjective anyway, but there is no reason to say "难道是因为他照片拍的很美?还是因为作者给了华新赞助,所以可以登广告?"
In fact
Maybe it has the value, but how about other articles?
NO Value?

I believe there are some article better than that one?
How can he do nothing with others??!!

I am very confused with the "fairness".

对于“难道是因为他照片拍的很美?还是因为作者给了华新赞助,所以可以登广告?" ,我也不大赞成(是偏激了点,不过我想大概是由很多事情引起的)
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作者:Flying (等级:18 - 华新水车,发帖:16849) 发表:2003-01-16 11:36:56  12楼
In factMaybe it has the value, but how about other articles? NO Value? I believe there are some article better than that one? How can he do nothing with others??!! I am very confused with the "fairness". 对于“难道是因为他照片拍的很美?还是因为作者给了华新赞助,所以可以登广告?" ,我也不大赞成(是偏激了点,不过我想大概是由很多事情引起的)
Well... as I mentioned, value is subjective.
"I believe there are some article better than that one?"
- For example?

Whenever it comes to subjective measures, there is really no right or wrong. The value of the post can be considered to be the actual photos? Or it can be anything you see inside it. In my opinion, it can be at least considered a good example of self-advertising to some extent. So what's to argue about pushing a demo?
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作者:notice (等级:0 - 我是小白,发帖:106) 发表:2003-01-16 11:52:02  13楼
Well... as I mentioned, value is subjective."I believe there are some article better than that one?" - For example? Whenever it comes to subjective measures, there is really no right or wrong. The value of the post can be considered to be the actual photos? Or it can be anything you see inside it. In my opinion, it can be at least considered a good example of self-advertising to some extent. So what's to argue about pushing a demo?
OK
notice: He (I dont know who) do NOTHING with other articles. He is a master, how can not do sth only based on his own mind? (Or he have no qualification to be a master!!!) how can he only do one thing for his area? (Well, as u mentioned, value is subjective. But how about other articles? all the articles have no vaule in his opinion??)
Well, as u said, ur above article also has some vaules(maybe for arguement). OK, It can be posted to the top now)
My English is poor. Maybe make many mistakes. Really sorry!
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作者:notice (等级:0 - 我是小白,发帖:106) 发表:2003-01-16 12:02:41  14楼
Well... as I mentioned, value is subjective."I believe there are some article better than that one?" - For example? Whenever it comes to subjective measures, there is really no right or wrong. The value of the post can be considered to be the actual photos? Or it can be anything you see inside it. In my opinion, it can be at least considered a good example of self-advertising to some extent. So what's to argue about pushing a demo?
I also want to ask u two questions
1. Should the master do things based on "fairness"?
2. Should the master do things only based on his own idea?
If both of answers are "NO", I have no words any more.
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作者:Flying (等级:18 - 华新水车,发帖:16849) 发表:2003-01-16 12:09:17  15楼 评分:
I also want to ask u two questions1. Should the master do things based on "fairness"? 2. Should the master do things only based on his own idea? If both of answers are "NO", I have no words any more.
0(^_^)0
Don't misunderstand my words.

1) Yes and no. Yes, because that's the basis after all. No, because fairness itself is subjective too. Given the limited space, it is impossible to push every book-selling post. So I consider it reasonable to pick only some to push. Those not being push are merely "less valuable" maybe, while no one has ever denied their value in any way.

2) Yes and no too. Yes, because that's the right given to a moderator. As a moderator, the right to respond to posts based on his own idea is the basis of his authority. No, because as a good moderator, he also has to consider the overall consequence of his own actions.

Well... My point here is that there is no clear-cut right or wrong in this case. Some may consider pushing a single book-selling post inappropriate, while others may feel grateful for the highlighting of information. I would say it is better not to define this action as "right" or "wrong" in any way since there can never be a global standard that everybody agrees upon.
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作者:乖乖天 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:102) 发表:2003-01-16 12:21:32  16楼 评分:
0(^_^)0Don't misunderstand my words. 1) Yes and no. Yes, because that's the basis after all. No, because fairness itself is subjective too. Given the limited space, it is impossible to push every book-selling post. So I consider it reasonable to pick only some to push. Those not being push are merely "less valuable" maybe, while no one has ever denied their value in any way. 2) Yes and no too. Yes, because that's the right given to a moderator. As a moderator, the right to respond to posts based on his own idea is the basis of his authority. No, because as a good moderator, he also has to consider the overall consequence of his own actions. Well... My point here is that there is no clear-cut right or wrong in this case. Some may consider pushing a single book-selling post inappropriate, while others may feel grateful for the highlighting of information. I would say it is better not to define this action as "right" or "wrong" in any way since there can never be a global standard that everybody agrees upon.
he is offline now, let me continue
At first, I agree with ur ideas.

However, that's not so simple just like what u have seen.
These things appeared many times in “信息论坛": The moderator appears--->Put one article on the top--->Do NOTHING with the other 3, 4, or even more pages--->Then leave

I dont think these things are understandable!

You are a great eloquence, I believe!( Everyone will miss my some important words cause of poor English)
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作者:Flying (等级:18 - 华新水车,发帖:16849) 发表:2003-01-16 12:30:50  17楼
he is offline now, let me continueAt first, I agree with ur ideas. However, that's not so simple just like what u have seen. These things appeared many times in “信息论坛": The moderator appears--->Put one article on the top--->Do NOTHING with the other 3, 4, or even more pages--->Then leave I dont think these things are understandable! You are a great eloquence, I believe!( Everyone will miss my some important words cause of poor English)
Good point.
But in that case, a more complete account is necessary while accusing the moderator, which was not the case as far as I see. The reasoning of 花露水's post was so vague and peculiar that made me felt like joining the discussion in the first place. I hope everybody can be provide better description and reasoning to justify their points in this forum. This will definitely help us greatly. :^)
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作者:乖乖天 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:102) 发表:2003-01-16 12:33:29  18楼
Good point.But in that case, a more complete account is necessary while accusing the moderator, which was not the case as far as I see. The reasoning of 花露水's post was so vague and peculiar that made me felt like joining the discussion in the first place. I hope everybody can be provide better description and reasoning to justify their points in this forum. This will definitely help us greatly. :^)
en, agree
only a misunderstanding

*O*

Time to rest now
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作者:猪子酱*猫 (等级:0 - 我是小白,发帖:3515) 发表:2003-01-16 15:20:51  19楼
为什么大家总是对这个置顶那个置顶有意见呢?置顶一两天又如何? 其实他也相当于提供信息嘛,不过可以说是卖信息罢了.
上次转贴还红桃加置顶呢。。也没看见
斑竹出来解释一下。。
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作者:大象 (等级:13 - 举世无双,发帖:9150) 发表:2003-01-16 18:27:53  20楼
上次转贴还红桃加置顶呢。。也没看见斑竹出来解释一下。。
sorry forgot to explain
Banzhu was not aware it is a transferred post nor was he aware someone has posted in focus before.
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