(引用 typhoonzj:到年龄的低调搞吧没到年龄的就别声张了。
不然我们这些还有很多年才轮到的,还没等到就大几率没了)这没办法控制英文论坛上到处都有,financial advisors也都会这样建议(他们也会有利可图)。华新这贡献不了多少。
这儿有个CPF board的回复,2021年就2%的人这么做了,到我们的年龄搞不成了是很有可能的。
Answer:
We are aware that some members invest their Special Account (SA) savings shortly before age 55 and liquidate it after age 55, to retain more CPF savings in their SA. In 2021, about 2% of CPF members turning 55 invested their SA monies under the CPF Investment Scheme-Special Account (CPFIS-SA) within six months before they turned age 55 and liquidated their investments within six months after they turned age 55. Some of them may have done so to prevent their SA monies from flowing into the Retirement Account at age 55.
We would like to reiterate to CPF members that the investment of SA monies comes with costs and investment risks – there are transaction fees involved and members may lose a portion of the amount invested. Financial advisers and insurance brokers who promote this practice without highlighting the costs and investment risks may be guilty of mis-selling, and should be reported to the Monetary Authority of Singapore.
We will continue to monitor this trend closely and take action if necessary.
https://www.mom.gov.sg/newsroom/parliament-questions-and-replies/2022/1004-written-answer-by-minister-for-manpower-to-pq-on-special-account-shielding
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(引用 qingni2:在新加坡合理合法。房贷可以用来填充公积金?你确认可以?)他根本没搞清楚, 并不是房贷进CPF而是cash -通过MWL套出cash进CPF[萧武达 (11-20 12:07, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]82楼
(引用 随便转转:哦,我很早就在华新讲过SA shielding不过这个办法确实是可行的,适用OA不够的同学。
万一贷款锁定期结束利率暴涨的话SA里的钱也随时可以�...)不管买不买T-bill 或者其它投资可以转到SA的数额极限就是FSR吧, 把SA清空(T-bill 或者批准的Unit trust),也就FSR 2023是多少? 198K
这个记得早年有人说过,买房前,清空OA,保留尽可能多的OA倒赚利息 -是一个道理吗?
The maximum amount you can transfer from OA to SA is the difference between the current Full Retirement Sum (FRS) and the combined sum of our current SA funds and the net SA withdrawn under the CPF Investment Scheme (CPFIS-SA) for investments that have not been completely disposed of.[萧武达 (11-20 12:18, 1 year ago)]
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(引用 随便转转:这没办法控制英文论坛上到处都有,financial advisors也都会这样建议(他们也会有利可图)。华新这贡献不了多少。 这儿有个CPF board的�...)这个回答很好啊金融顾问和保险经纪人在不强调成本和投资风险的情况下推广这种做法,可能会犯错误销售罪,[萧武达 (11-20 12:20, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]84楼
(引用 随便转转:这没办法控制英文论坛上到处都有,financial advisors也都会这样建议(他们也会有利可图)。华新这贡献不了多少。 这儿有个CPF board的�...)我觉得这个官方回答没有涉及本质直击灵魂。而是旁敲侧击,让那些advisor别瞎建议 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [typhoonzj (11-20 12:36, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]85楼
(引用 随便转转:这没办法控制英文论坛上到处都有,financial advisors也都会这样建议(他们也会有利可图)。华新这贡献不了多少。
这儿有个CPF board的�...)其实,如果决定要拿SA的4%,就应该尽早做OA-SA transfer到顶了不进,但已经在SA的不会转出
而且FSR每年再增加 -如果利息增长小于上限增长,是不是每年都可以补填?
为啥一定要等55?
如果OA不够,算俺没说, 是不是这个道理?[萧武达 (11-21 9:27, 1 year ago)]
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(引用 随便转转:这没办法控制英文论坛上到处都有,financial advisors也都会这样建议(他们也会有利可图)。华新这贡献不了多少。 这儿有个CPF board的�...)请问这种方法买T-bill,一次最多可以买多少钱的呀?T-bill有限额么?还是跟ssb一样最后给你分某个份额?[热带鱼999 (11-28 14:34, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]87楼
(引用 热带鱼999:请问这种方法买T-bill,一次最多可以买多少钱的呀?T-bill有限额么?还是跟ssb一样最后给你分某个份额?)有,顶限一百万够了吗? [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [大好人 (11-28 15:37, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]88楼
远远超出我的想像那就是55岁前买T-bill把SA清空喽?[热带鱼999 (11-29 9:04, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]89楼
(引用 热带鱼999:远远超出我的想像那就是55岁前买T-bill把SA清空喽?)SA里面有四万不能用来投资所以是SA总额一4万 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [大好人 (11-29 9:31, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]90楼
(引用 大好人:SA里面有四万不能用来投资所以是SA总额一4万)明白了,谢谢又涨知识了[热带鱼999 (11-29 11:11, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]91楼
(引用 大好人:SA里面有四万不能用来投资所以是SA总额一4万)所以还是要结合自己的OA的余额,对么55岁时OA的全部转去SA, 如果SA已经满了,T-bill最好买SA+OA-4万。买的更多的话,OA也没有那么多的钱去填满了,反而浪费SA的利息。我的理解对么?[热带鱼999 (11-29 11:16, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]92楼
(引用 热带鱼999:所以还是要结合自己的OA的余额,对么55岁时OA的全部转去SA, 如果SA已经满了,T-bill最好买SA+OA-4万。买的更多的话,OA也没有那么多的钱�...)对的OA不够,可以用现金填到够。五十五岁后等于现金变成SA 4%的活期,但是只能取,不能再存了。 [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [大好人 (11-29 11:27, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]93楼
(引用 大好人:对的OA不够,可以用现金填到够。五十五岁后等于现金变成SA 4%的活期,但是只能取,不能再存了。)通过topup 37740 不到的CPF还是可以进一些去SA吧?[regina2019 (11-29 11:40, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]94楼
(引用 regina2019:通过topup 37740 不到的CPF还是可以进一些去SA吧?)五十五岁之后如果ERS满了,就不能了topup SA了
https://www.cpf.gov.sg/member/faq/growing-your-savings/retirement-sum-topping-up-scheme/i-am-55--can-i-transfer-my-ordinary-account-savings-to-my-specia
If I am 55, can I transfer my Ordinary Account savings to my Special Account to earn a higher interest rate?
No, you will not be able to make CPF transfers to your Special Account (SA) after you turn 55. Instead, your transfers will be made to your Retirement Account (RA), which was created for your retirement needs.
https://www.cpf.gov.sg/member/faq/growing-your-savings/retirement-sum-topping-up-scheme/what-is-the-maximum-amt-of-top-ups-i-can-receive
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(引用 大好人:五十五岁之后如果ERS满了,就不能了topup SA了 https://www.cpf.gov.sg/member/faq/growing-your-savings/retirement-sum-topping-up-sch...)但是当年的CPF进账不到37740的话,可以TOPUP进3个账号吧。[regina2019 (11-29 12:05, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]96楼
(引用 regina2019:但是当年的CPF进账不到37740的话,可以TOPUP进3个账号吧。)五十五岁之前进SA五十五岁之后进RA [本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [大好人 (11-29 12:24, 1 year ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]97楼