morgan stanley和rbs该如何选择？2年银行工作经验，大学读会计的。到了跳槽了时候了，面试这两家，几轮下来胜算很大，到了抉择的时候了。
morgan stanley传说要和某个依旧牛b的公司merge了，rbs貌似更稳定些。。。。
各位达人怎么看，多谢指点。[格林小镇 (9-19 19:11, Long long ago)]
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老实讲, 对米国来说如果摩根士丹利倒掉, 问题会简化很多... :P嘻嘻 :D[aspernet (9-19 20:08, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]2楼
(引用 aspernet:老实讲, 对米国来说如果摩根士丹利倒掉, 问题会简化很多... :P嘻嘻 :D)浅见我觉得要看具体工作吧，工作内容， 将来公司对自己的发展，通过面试下来感觉老板和环境是不是适合。rbs现在总体来说比较稳定，也要看具体部门。。 就我见过的人，同样内容年份，ms钱多一些吧。。 [人贩子 (9-19 21:15, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼
Stand alone IBs might be......a thing for the past. IBs usually have a leverage of 30 or more, a few folds of that of a conventional commercial bank. This level of leverage will be hard to survive the current market conditions.
MS has a leverage of 20 at this moment, which is probably the lowest for the firm for the past few years. However, they still need to hold merger talks with commercial banks like Wachovia, which has a lower leverage (10) and a much better buffered balance sheet.
Another option that MS is exploring right now is to seek more equity injection from CIC, potentially to a maximum level allowed under a minority holding - 49.9%.
RBS has also been highlighted recently as a potentially risky UK bank. After the ABN acquisition, RBS' balance sheet is still considerably weak. It is also very much exposed to the UK mortgage market, which might suffer from a spill-over if the credit crunch unfold further in the US.
Congrats in nailing the interviews and good luck to you.[Aquixote (9-19 23:14, Long long ago)]
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哪个部门？ 我两个地方都有朋友在，也许能给你点建议。[DINGPeng (9-21 2:01, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼
(引用 DINGPeng:哪个部门？ 我两个地方都有朋友在，也许能给你点建议。)finance departmentmorgan stanley做management report，rbs做英国的report，谢谢[格林小镇 (9-21 16:56, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]6楼
(引用 Aquixote:Stand alone IBs might be......a thing for the past. IBs usually have a leverage of 30 or more, a few folds of that of a conventi...)谢谢高人指点，我会慎重考虑的。[格林小镇 (9-21 16:57, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼
(引用 人贩子:浅见我觉得要看具体工作吧，工作内容， 将来公司对自己的发展，通过面试下来感觉老板和环境是不是适合。rbs现在总体来说比较稳定，也要看...)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? 数到手抽筋就好了。。。哈哈[格林小镇 (9-21 16:59, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]8楼
(引用 格林小镇:finance departmentmorgan stanley做management report，rbs做英国的report，谢谢)what is the job scope?对不起，其是不是很理解IB的finance部门主要做什么呢？[monk (9-21 20:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼
(引用 monk:what is the job scope?对不起，其是不是很理解IB的finance部门主要做什么呢？)我应聘的这个职位是做cost control的有一些相关的management report和budgeting.[格林小镇 (9-21 23:03, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]10楼
(引用 格林小镇:我应聘的这个职位是做cost control的有一些相关的management report和budgeting.)go MS[ropin (9-22 23:56, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼
RBS...ms is on the way to fall...but cost control will be good......haha...can cut your boss first....[frpapaya (9-25 21:29, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]12楼
(引用 frpapaya:RBS...ms is on the way to fall...but cost control will be good......haha...can cut your boss first....)ooohhh.. bank of america...[邓可 (9-27 11:05, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼
(引用 邓可:ooohhh.. bank of america...)not yet...still waiting for share holder approval...at least i will vote agree...haha...
probably will be bank of bull.... [frpapaya (9-28 11:01, Long long ago)]
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(引用 frpapaya:RBS...ms is on the way to fall...but cost control will be good......haha...can cut your boss first....)MS sold 20% to Mitsubishi UFJ, 2nd largest bank by asset..in fact, the attack to MS and GS were very fearful. it is not simply about the share price, but the business confidence got hammered by the looming counterparty risk concerns. this is painful, but as TARP get pass (i believe it will, in spit of the rejection last nite), the business flow will be regained. and dun forget that bank holding company status is also another key, from where they can grow their deposits base by either aggresively acquiring small commercial banks or merge partially with big commercial bank.
in fact, i dun think, or no one think that MS and GS need to convert to bank holding company, or merge with anyone. however, due to the over reaction of the market, especially the mis-conception of CDS, these two fine banks need to suffer. afterall, market is in short term driven by sentiments. so whatever can effectively control sentiment will win. this is just so bloody true...
anyway, this can be a big topic. but just wanna say: MS and GS are the top-tier if you wanna be damn good! but u only concern job security, then RBS is fine.[banban (10-1 1:53, Long long ago)]
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