每年群众投诉，每年什么都没改变呢。我一个本地同事住近名校1km申请义工学校不收啊，靠抽签更加不靠谱，本地非官二代富二代群众们也是很不满。

那些校友对继续保持学校的价值观有什么狗屁贡献啊，凭什么比住的近的学生有优先权， 做旧校友什么的还不个人的motivation,

反正既得益者是不会怎么容易把好处让出来的， 看看都是谁在定政策了，部长和手下们都是名校出来的， 人家要保证下一代进名校不是， 屁股决定脑袋。

要绝对公平那只能大家什么条件不摆就一上来就抽签了。
房价现在已经是名校区很高了,
但是至少还有在hdb 附近的名校,比如公教 爱童 rulang red swastica等一般家庭负担的起hdb的价格,问题是校友呼啦就把大片名额都占了,这叫什么事啊。
爸是acs boy 儿子也要acs boy 精英们好不自以为是。

南样等的传统就得不到延续了? 愿闻其详

i think you get too carried away, we are talking about giving priority for pupils stay nearby the primary school.

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let me state mine:
Life is already full of inequality. There is however one thing equal - everyone is given 24hours a day. More time on road to school means less time in resting, extracurricular activity, study and/or family gathering.

The alumni parents may not care about their or their kids' time, but they deprive other kids of a chance of getting into a school within their proximity. They are forcing others to travel longer distance as a result of their self righteousness.

Lastly, Old money has not been proven to be genetically superior to the average mortal. They get an upper hand cus they are in charge of resource distribution. Will they outperform the average mortal if resources are distributed equally? Not necessary.

Want to get into a certain school? Stay nearby it. By all means.


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1) Agreed, life is mostly of time, about inequality.
2) It is nature for less resourced seeking for more social equality and more resourced protecting their existing territory. Like what you said “you can settle for a "lousier" school, no one forces you to squeeze your head into top schools”. Given no choice, the less resourced has to settle for less. That is the current fact, but this does not justify its rationality.
3) Alumni descents do not equal better 'input”. I have to disagree with you on this.
4) The government has not removed this legacy system not for the reason that they are concerned about prices around the top school area. Property overheat? come on it is already here, with or without legacy system. The government has amber of cooling measures in mind, if they want to.
5) No one will marry someone for the reason you suggested. I know it is joke though.


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Besides having more resources, those schools are good because they get to cherry pick the gifted students ( bright non-alumni descents, lol) in primary 3. Not because their alumni kids are brighter than others.
If promoting social mobility is desired, why wait till secondary school. Why are non-alumni descents starting their game at handicap line. (lol this may not be appropriate, as I believe all schools in sg are equally good, just some are more equal than others :-))
Anw, we can talk till cows come home on this and nothing in reality is going to change. I m not going to reply u anymore. All my points are here.



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1) I have a doctor friend who came from a neighborhood school stay within 1km from NYPS. His kid did not manage to get into NYPS, because the slots were taken by some other kid stay in jurong west or so, whose parent by chance studied in NYPS 30 years ago. He is spending more time on road sending his kids to a school miles away for the next 6 years.

I have another doctor friend stay within 1km from TaoNan. He is less hopeful of getting his kid in this school within his walking distance. The plan is sending the kids to maris stella many miles away, which was his primary school.

If this legacy system is making sense to you, it certainly has not made sense to many of us.

2) I have seen statistics showing graduate kids outperformed the non-graduate kids in certain areas. But none statistics showed alumni kids had more promising future than the kids stay nearby the school. If you have done some private studies, share with us, before concluding it is statistically proven.

3) I have a lawyer colleague studied in NYPS many years ago. He told me he was in NYPS for its proximity. It was the choice for ppl living in the area that time. He did not expect it to be a school so sought after now.

4) If the proximity rule were adopted, applying your logic, the top schools still get to pick from the most promising pool of genes whatsoever , as someone cannot afford a residential property near NYPS is less likely to be successful than the ones who can ( who are perceived to be more privileged and socially resourceful). And the one who are willing to move and stay nearby a dream primary school shall be perceived to be more committed in education than the one who are not. This part of argument of yours does not stand by itself.

5) For the sake of the argument, do not mix the concept of alumni of a graduate school or a top JC with the alumni of a primary school. You are totally missing the point. We might pay respect to ppl who are ex-HwoChong, ex-RI, ex-Harvard etc. But If you go round and telling others how special you feel being an ex-NYPS , I bet you be labeled “joke of the day”.

6) let us wait and see which is more right. Only time will tell.


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1)The examples quoted were of course from my personal example. I cant speak for the general public, and neither can you. Which way will benefit the school the most? There is no valid comparison for now, as NYPS has not enrolled the students based on proximity or other merits yet.
Currently half of NYPS pupils score more than 240 in PSLE, will this get even better if the enrolment criteria are based on something else? Will the school become a more diversified and competitive elite school if they forgo the legality system?
2) Whether a better resourced kid has more chance of success or not has never be my point of contention in this thread. Don’t get too carried away.
3) I am for the proximity over legacy system, cause it is more rational.


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the current enrollment criteria of primary schools in China and US are for proximity and/or other merits, correct me if I m wrong. We have not heard debating in those countries suggesting the primary schools give absolute priority enrollment to alumni kids, in the name of school benefit.
But this issue in Singapore has always been a topic of contention. Is not this says a lot?


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1)If that is what you believe, which is that the success story of NYPS is largely due to its enrollment priority. NYPS has to be the world number 1 primary school, as its enrollment method is so” superior” than the rest of the world.
I m sure there are other good primary schools in the world, amber of them, that do not enroll and given absolute priority to alumni kids, and equally successful.
Mind you, a school with an open mind will continue to flourish, that is why NYPS is taking in gifted students and also Soros(new money?)’s kid. Given proximity priority, they may take in our” King”’s kids in years to come. We welcome this change and it definitely adds culture diversity to the school.
2)Enough of NYPS discussion, as if I am a stakeholder. There are over 100 primary schools goes by legacy system. Talk about them too.
3)Lastly an inappropriate example-
A girl got a bank job because her father worked in the bank 30 years ago, for 6 years. She is perceived to be more qualified than the others, because, hey her father is a banker for 6 years, she must good at this job. Statistically proven. – legacy system
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Another girl got a bank job because she has a pretty face and big boobs, born with it or after a successful plastic surgery. – Favor over proximity. Not entirely fair but I see this recruitment more rational. At least this girl has something to offer. Customers are happier. Fewer kids have to travel across the island at 6am every weekday.


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