齐启棋 / 棋人生 has decided to take a rest after 14.5 months instead of 1 year initially ....., this is also part of my plan to arrange my duties in Bishan Xiangqi Club, SIXGA and 悟入棋途 within July 2008.

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Personal Views from 齐启棋 / 棋人生 …..

Below were the 3 posts resulted in my first post in 悟入棋途 and ended up with close to 2,800 posts for me in the last 14.5 months here and I wish to go back to my first post.

新加坡象棋的现状与出路(ZT) － 将五进九　3816 bytes 2007-05-12 14:00

既然会长先生抛砖引玉,我也说说自己的看法(长) － 卷心菜　3218 bytes 2007-05-12 17:42

谢谢教诲，我有时也是有苦说不出的 － 棋儒　475 bytes 2007-05-12 23:48


Testing, may stop here － 棋人生　369 bytes 2007-05-13 06:25

Recently I introduced this Singapore website to some friends who like xiangqi as I found that
it has a lot of information on Singapore xiangqi.
If the discussions of these types of serious topics could generate some solutions, then it serves
the purpose for Singapore Xiangqi, otherwise just wasting times. My personal belief is "action",
don't just stop at "talking".

When I joined on the first day, the reason was not on technical but more on Singapore Xiangqi Development as a whole and during the last 14.5 months, very clear in my close to 2,800 posts that my stand towards Singapore Xiangqi Development is still the same without change, but somehow the non-technical discussions become as having "dirty discussion" labels recently.

版主 (卷心菜 一刀n断 张辽) have done a wonderful job for 悟入棋途 until to-date, my leaving here is purely on my personal reasons and change of priorities. One day I may join back with another name.

As I do not believe in NATO (no action, talk only), at this point, I have also indicated that I plan to compile some information as one of the articles for part of 新加坡15年象棋活动记录 (1995/2009) to mark SIXGA 75th Anniversary Celebration at end 2009. Just hope that I am not 眼高手低。

The net names of 碧山 and 碧山东 will still be used but only on official news.

Last but not least, wishing 悟入棋途 a better tomorrow.

I feel happy and I feel sad too.

Anyway, I will still just concentrate on the 3 主帖 as mentioned early and ignore all other views from now on. :-)


Today, 31 July 2008, is my preferred date for the changes.

I mentioned about 1995 to 2009 新加坡十五年象棋活动记录 on 27 Nov 2007 and changed to 新加坡十年 (4th Qtr 1998 to 3rd Qtr 2008) 象棋活动记录 on 11 Mar 2008.

In the coming 2 to 3 months, majority if not all are busy on watching 北京奥运 2008 and working on 怡和轩杯第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛(新加坡)(10月20-26日). No one will pay attention to the keeping of records, this is the real problem for the past several years.

For official records keeping, accuracy and completeness are the two critical factors, very few or none wish to participate in such nature of task.

At this point, I am thinking whether we should give way to the completeness, i.e. we should not worry too much on completeness and just to compile whatever we have, of course, data accuracy is still to be observed.

This is the reason for me to suggest the tentative title of the write-up as below :

1995 -- 2009 新加坡十五年象棋活动之一二 ......

i.e. regardless 1,2,3 ...... or how many items we managed to compile.

Now, we have less than 16 months to compile these information if SIXGA 75th Anniversary Celebration is to be held in Dec 2009 .......

we are going to lose more and more xiangqi information over times if we do not start to do somethings now ....

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齐启棋 2008-03-11 19:00

Singapore Xiangqi 10-Year Records

We may use a moving target approach, i.e.

If we can get it up by Oct 2008 (in time for 第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛), then the 10 years cover Oct 1998 to Sep 2008, otherwise we may aim for Oct 1999 to Sep 2009 before SIXGA’s 75th Anniversary Celebration.

We should at least cover

团体赛

个人赛

棋会介绍

棋手介绍

Any other inputs ?

Does anyone wish to contribute ?


棋人生 2007-11-27 15:48

Singapore 15 years Xiangqi Records, 1995 to 2009

.......

To ensure a good job, I also wish to suggest not to rush for Oct 2008 Asian Xiangqi Games in Singapore but to aim for end 2009 SIXGA 75th Anniversary, if the records could be compiled before Oct 2008 in times for Asian Xiangqi Federation 30th Anniversary Celebration in Singapore, it will be considered as unexpected present from Singapore.

will bring the matter up again after 怡和轩杯第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛(新加坡)(10月20-26日) ...........

i.e. early Nov 2008, about 13 months to Dec 2009 .....

in this 1995 -- 2009 新加坡十五年象棋活动之一二 ......

personally, I think should cover 悟入棋途 under Internet or 棋会介绍.

The three 版主:卷心菜 一刀n断 张辽 whether able to provide some information related to 悟入棋途 if decided.

from 卷心菜's proposal below :

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11051266

he has suggested to include 华新悟入棋途网ID大全

http://meteor.huasing.org/qi/

I believe he should have no problem to get the relevant information from 华新网 technical support.

Anyway, I wish to share the following related information (70 users) in the past two months :

The 46 active users in the past one month since 13 July 2008 ....

14 Existing Users :

Eteng 多啦A梦 棋人生 smmasing 棋儒 齐启棋 杀着大全

香陵居士 棋一生 一刀n断 太阳黑子 几度 卷心菜 张辽

32 New Users in the last two months :

帅将 (appeared before during last few days of 2008全国赛)
smallfry (new)
magician88 (new)
155HgFH88 (new)
peanut (new since 6 July 2008)
火影 (new)
EP(功夫熊猫) (new)
OxyGen (new since 5 July 2008)
waterchess (new)
angryyou (new)
TheTruth (new)
炮卒 (new)
洛三儿 (new since mid Jun 2008)
邱万达(new)
email123 (new)
xiaobeidou (new since mid Jun 2008)
我才是马甲(new)
bls (new since early Jun 2008)
新加坡鸭子(new since 6 July 2008)
Zyne(new since mid Jun 2008)
水棋(new since 2 July 2008)
王昶(new)
LingLong(new)
吕大侠(new since 9 July 2008)
明花暗柳 (appeared before during Jun/Jul 2007)
野比大雄 (appeared before during Mar/Apr 2008)
Matrix (appeared before during Mar 2003 to Apr 2004)
Jessica (appeared before in May 2003 and Nov 2007)
碧山 (appeared before in Mar 2008)
逢人让双马 (appeared before during Apr 2003 to Jul 2004)
碧山东 (appeared before in Mar 2008)
大象 (appeared before in Aug 2003 and Sep 2005)

24 Users not active in the last one month …..

风云剑 marauder number007 网络蚂蚁 火云邪神 2008八连负 maddy 齐天大圣 杨家小将

将五进九 胡耀宇 圣手狂龙 华新飞剑 业余棋评家 Einstein fairplay10 amydumas37 棋大炮

王印 number001 ZJS zhanshen 魔刀转世 any_one

Sorry if there is any error in the information compiled, from 齐启棋, : )

Last but not least, I may not include any of the above information in 1995 -- 2009 新加坡十五年象棋活动之一二 ...... depending on what we really want after a checking, say in Aug 2009, on all data or information collected.

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11052544

namely yinan (from his latest post) and chess (by chance).

Although these few posts on 悟入棋途 users are not critical information for

1995 -- 2009 新加坡十五年象棋活动之一二 ......

but these can explain why we need to give priority to accuracy when we try to compile the records from the past especially related to :

团体赛

个人赛

棋会介绍

棋手介绍

others

the RJC Cup should be covered in this article as this yearly xiangqi event should be the 25th RJC Cup in 2009 ..... it started in 1985 ?

Any other xiangqi yearly events with say 20 years or 15 years histories ?

1995 许 信
1996 康德荣
1997 林耀森
2000 莫文耀
2002 赖汉顺
2005 黄俊铭
2007 吴宗翰
2009 Any 新冠军 ?

(1934 to 2005 data from SIXGA Website)

Guo Guan 1934
Jiang Jing Yun 1935
Hu Zhang 1936
Su Mian Zhi 1937
Dong Shi Wen 1949
Yan Qing Xiu 1954
Shen Yun Qing 1959 1979 1983 1984 1985
Huang Yan Zhu 1961
Ye Zhao Hui 1963 1966
Zheng Xiang Fu 1965 1969 1971
Lin Ming Yan 1968 1974
Liu Hong Xiang 1970
Li Jin Fu 1972
Fang Jian Ming 1973 1975 1993
Xu Xi Huan 1976
Huang Jin De 1978
Su Jin Lian 1981 1982 1992
Guo Lai Xin 1987
Huang De Xin 1988
Li Qing Xian 1989 1990 1994
Zheng Hai Wen 1991
Xu Xin 1995
Kang De Rong 1996 1998
Lin Yao Sen 1997 1999 2001 2003
Mo Wen Yao 2000
Lai Han Shun 2002 2004 2006
Huang Jun Ming 2005
吴宗翰 2007 2008

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11056576

the existing grading system of 象棋大师, 甲级棋士 and 乙级棋士 was implemented 21 years ago in 1987.

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Yesterday 棋一生 asked me where to get the information for those years (2002 to 2008) not displayed at SIXGA's notice board. I told him about SIXGA AGM reports.

I may be able to help in checking from the following 3 sources :

(1) SIXGA Newsletters

(2) SIXGA AGM Yearly Reports

(3) 2003 to 2006 records as compiled from 悟入棋途 before 象总网页 Meeting held on 13 Apr 2008 .......

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11009294

几度甲级 in 2003 without any details (should be Position 9th to 12th ? not in SIXGA Website too, only showing the first 6th.) except Page 28 of SIXGA's 70th Anniversary Publication (List of 甲级 by Year), may be it is good for 棋一生 to get someone to verify the information compiled before the use for 1995 -- 2009 新加坡十五年象棋活动之一二 ...... if suitable.

1994 to 2003 are the 10 years under Zaobao Cup.

卷心菜 has suggested to include 新加坡棋手大全 in his proposed wedsite.

In general, we should have the complete lists of SIXGA 象棋大师 and 甲级棋士 from the various SIXGA reports or pulications. For 乙级棋士, the missing parts are those earlier years, i.e. 1987 to 2001, some efforts are needed in these areas as for the compilation of 2002 to 2008 List.

As for 无级高手, not a good way to maintain it before the introduction of few more lower grades for the players.

List of 乙级棋士 should be the next priority .......

List of One Only ...... 17 冠军 players

Guo Guan 1934
Jiang Jing Yun 1935
Hu Zhang 1936
Su Mian Zhi 1937
Dong Shi Wen 1949
Yan Qing Xiu 1954
Huang Yan Zhu 1961
Liu Hong Xiang 1970
Li Jin Fu 1972
Xu Xi Huan 1976
Huang Jin De 1978
Guo Lai Xin 1987
Huang De Xin 1988
Zheng Hai Wen 1991
Xu Xin 1995
Mo Wen Yao 2000
Huang Jun Ming 2005

List of Two or More ....... 11 冠军 players

Shen Yun Qing 1959 1979 1983 1984 1985
Ye Zhao Hui 1963 1966
Zheng Xiang Fu 1965 1969 1971
Lin Ming Yan 1968 1974
Fang Jian Ming 1973 1975 1993
Su Jin Lian 1981 1982 1992
Li Qing Xian 1989 1990 1994
Kang De Rong 1996 1998
Lin Yao Sen 1997 1999 2001 2003
Lai Han Shun 2002 2004 2006
吴宗翰 2007 2008

吕瑞展 (2002 乙级棋士) promotion to 甲级棋士 (2004)

杨平德 (2003 乙级棋士) promotion to 甲级棋士 (2004)

邱冠杰 (无级) direct promotion to 甲级棋士 (2005)

陈愉中(2004 乙级棋士) direct promotion to 吴宗翰 (2007 象棋大师)

黄荣岳 (2005 乙级棋士) promotion to 甲级棋士 (2008)

团体联赛 10 years (1995 to 2004) other than the RJC Cup 24 years at the moment .....

Anyone know about other team events with 10 years or more ?

Inter-Statutory Boards ?

Inter-Varsity and Polytechnic ?

赖汉顺 (2002 象棋大师) 1995 to 乙级棋士 1997 to 甲级棋士

蔡泽文 (2002 甲级棋士) 1997 to 乙级棋士

张勋 (2002 甲级棋士) 2001 to 乙级棋士

黄毅鸿 (2002 甲级棋士) 2001 to 乙级棋士

洪天瑞 (2002 甲级棋士) 1999 to 乙级棋士

胡海宇 (2003 甲级棋士) 1999 to 乙级棋士

黄俊铭 (2005 象棋大师) 1998 to 乙级棋士 1999 to 甲级棋士

杨高正 (2006 甲级棋士) 1996 to 乙级棋士

The earlier promotions of the above 2 象棋大师 and 6 甲级棋士 were during the period of Zaobao Cup (1994 to 2003). Same for 2 甲级棋士 below too.

In total, there were 3, 10 and 32 promotions to 象棋大师, 甲级棋士 and 乙级棋士 respectively during 2002 to 2008.

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5 promotions for 2002 to 2008 SIXGA 乙级棋士 and one 无级 .......


吕瑞展 (2002 乙级棋士) promotion to 甲级棋士 (2004)

杨平德 (2003 乙级棋士) promotion to 甲级棋士 (2004)

邱冠杰 (无级) direct promotion to 甲级棋士 (2005)

陈愉中(2004 乙级棋士) direct promotion to 吴宗翰 (2007 象棋大师)

黄荣岳 (2005 乙级棋士) promotion to 甲级棋士 (2008)

I am trying to get the lists of graded players for these 7 years, 2002 to 2008, to study and propose, say all graded players must join 新加坡全国象棋个人赛 at least once in every 5 years (?), otherwise will be downgraded for one grade unless with good reasons (?) etc, may need to consider players above, say 70 years old (?) will not be covered by this proposal.

Views from all, please.