hehelast year when IGM liu dahua came to singapore, I asked him questions about this "57 pao give 2 free pawn against FGM", he told me that no matter which variation red chose, "che 8 = 9" or "che 8 ^ 9", it would be a draw. I think it is surely a draw in the "grandmaster level" now, but for us, it is still quite chanlleging for both red and black. last time I lose to li guohua because I don't know how to couter attack his "wrong variation". young chessmaster shen peng lose to xu yinchuan in last year's chinese chess league series A. i felt that shen played very bad in that game, even worse than some "star lake stage one" players, :)