【装修】木地板打磨涂哑光漆后,装修商说坡县漆都是一样的都含甲醛
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【装修】木地板打磨涂哑光漆后,装修商说坡县漆都是一样的都含甲醛

开窗开风扇吹了1个月,甲醛安全值依然超标。 如果开窗吹风扇睡觉浓度自然低处于安全值。如果开空调到夜里就升高到0.16不安全值,没有继续关门窗测估计关一夜肯定到危险值。看样子这得继续散味道个一年半载的才能住卧室啊!

 

同学们都有这方便的经验吗?

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作者:June1516 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:484) 发表:2016-12-16 09:41:49  2楼
再多放放吧
一个月时间其实挺短的 而且多放些植物 吊兰吸收能力很强
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作者:r3tp6 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:109) 发表:2016-12-16 09:48:09  3楼
立邦也有?
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作者:yydy (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:5986) 发表:2016-12-16 09:58:51  4楼
我家地板打磨上漆放了至少两个月才入住的。买了一箱活性炭丢在每个房间。目前[…]
测试甲醇含量达标。
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作者:comsol (等级:4 - 马马虎虎,发帖:1281) 发表:2016-12-16 10:01:31  5楼
什么牌子的漆都有吗
呃呃 正准备做这个
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 10:31:42  6楼
不知道。应该不是用的立邦,因为弄完以后我才搜索学习到有油性漆也水性漆。据[…]
说水性漆不含甲醛,但当时装修商说新加坡地板漆都一样所以没有多问。
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 10:33:03  7楼
什么牌子的漆都有吗呃呃 正准备做这个
据说水性漆不含甲醛,你多问问你的装修商回答我一下吧。我也很迷茫。
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 10:34:14  8楼
再多放放吧一个月时间其实挺短的 而且多放些植物 吊兰吸收能力很强
多谢提醒!准备把各种绿植活性炭都弄起来。
已经做好准备睡客厅一年半载了,毕竟家里有孩子。
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 10:35:09  9楼
我家地板打磨上漆放了至少两个月才入住的。买了一箱活性炭丢在每个房间。目前[…]测试甲醇含量达标。
麻烦请问你们涂的什么漆?我感觉地板漆肯定也有质量高下之分。
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作者:Horny (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:435) 发表:2016-12-16 10:48:24  10楼
是的,楼主要选水性漆,会贵一点,但是值得。
水性漆最好涂三层(一般价格是涂两层,所以三层又会贵一点),但是值得。
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 11:12:04  11楼
是的,楼主要选水性漆,会贵一点,但是值得。水性漆最好涂三层(一般价格是涂两层,所以三层又会贵一点),但是值得。
完全不懂啊,而且装修商也没有提这方便。早知道宁愿贵我也要选水性漆
因为家里有孩子的。但是我问他们这个漆的问题的时候,回答说坡县都一样的!这是因为测出来一个月还超标我才去做Research然后发现这个水性漆的。
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Oil based Paint or Water based Paint?

What are emulsion paints? Acrylic Paints?&nbsp;Water soluble&nbsp;Paints? Latex Paints?
Which types of paint are water based and which are oil based paints?
Oil based paints are also known as alkyd based paints, petroleum based paints, hydrocarbon based paints or solvent based paints. Water based paints&nbsp;comprise terms such&nbsp;as acrylic water based paint, latex paint, aqueous solvent based paint&nbsp;or water soluble emulsion paint.
For someone who is unfamiliar with the types of paint to use for walls, furniture, windows, gates and doors for home, choosing the right paint can be a challenge. Today, 90% of commercial paints available for home painting or commercial painting are water based paints. Painting contractors who once used oil based paints primarily for exterior painting & outdoor furniture painting have now switched to water based paints such as acrylic latex paints due to the improvisation and enhancement of emulsion paint composition and properties that are made to even suit external painting of not just masonry surfaces (walls & ceilings) but metal and wooden exterior frameworks such as gates, window grilles & metal roofs as well. With the new paint formulas, we remain the painting company that provides one of the most&nbsp;affordable painting services in Singapore.
Here is an overview of some of the paint properties that distinguish the two:
Elasticity
Oil based paint is generally harder than water based paints due to the solvent constitute in the mixture. The solvent component of a paint compound controls its quality in plastering consistency.
Water based paints contain water as solvent whereas oil based paints are either alkyd (synthetic resins) or hydrocarbon resins (petroleum) based. Water based paints such as latex or emulsion has greater flex and is able to withstand expansion movements due to its elastic property.
Oil based paint tend to crack over time due to wear and tear and temperature changes in the environment. This is especially so for homes that experience more drastic climatic changes with seasons. For an all year tropical weather like Singapore, oil based paints will be able to last longer without cracking not only due to constant weather, but also our relatively high humidity which keeps dryness of paint finish at bay.
In most houses, interior walls are being repeatedly painted over again and again as part of refurbishing or renovation works without first scraping off the underlying paint layer. If paint is being applied one layer on top of another, adhesion of the paint to the substrate will not be as good as compared to painting over a freshly stripped bare wall surface. This is especially so for oil based paint which tend to be brittle; and may result in cracks or peels on the wall paint easily.
Wearing
Oil based paint, or some know it as alkyd paint or petroleum based paint is generally harder wearing than water based latex acrylic paints or emulsion paints. Because of its hard wearing nature, it is most suitable to be applied on wood and metal and other hard surfaces. ICI Dulux Paint carries solvent-based paints known as enamels that are made to apply on metal surfaces. These oil paints are formulated to cater for various functional benefits such as anti-fungal and anti-bacteria.
How to paint with water based paint over oil based paint
If you are painting with acrylic water based paint over a surface that has previously been painted with oil based or alkyd resin paint, while it is possible to prime the substrate’s surface with a water based primer sealer or sand the surface down to improve bonding before applying water based paint over, the outcome may not be as durable as painting over with oil based paint. Oil based and water based paints do not mix and therefore would not adhere well with each other. If you have no other choice, invest in a good latex primer.
How to paint with oil based paint over water based paint
Likewise for using oil based paint over a surface previously painted with latex paint or any other water based paint. This often results in cracking or peeling of the new paint layer because water based paint being the undercoat has higher elasticity than the above lying oil based paint. Oil based paints are generally harder than water based paints as they are less flexible and less susceptible to temperature changes. The water based paint underneath will flex according to such changes while the top oil based paint does not, therefore it could only crack or warp with the underlying movements.
Appearance
Oil based paints generally give richer texture and finish due to the natural sheen in oil formulas. And because of its higher viscosity than water based paints, oil based paints provides better coverage and in hiding flaws. However now with improved formulas, water based paints can give as good masking qualities as oil based paints. With a variety of water based paints with glossy finish now available in the market, they too can produce rich enhancement on wall surfaces.
How to remove water based paint and oil based paint
If you opt for DIY painting, an important aspect you need to take note of would be the ease or hassle of cleaning up your painting tools such as paintbrushes after the job. Water based paints can be cleaned off from your painting brushes easily with just soap and water due to water solubility. If you are using oil based paint, you will need mineral spirits to wash them off, very often with more effort.
Drying and Curing
Although in general water based paints dry much faster than oil based paints, the drying time of paints depend on several factors. Weather such as temperature of the environment and humidity as well as the thickness & number of paint coatings will affect how fast the paint can dry. Paints tend to dry slower in cool temperatures and high humidity. In sunny and humid Singapore, always leave your fan on to speed up drying time. The drying time for water based paints take typically a few hours while oil based paints can only dry over 1 to 2 days. The labels of the paint cans you use should also state the estimated drying time of the paint. Do note that the drying process is not the same as curing.
Curing
Drying only means that the paint would not stain your fingers when you touch it as the water in the latex paint or water based paint, and the solvent in the case of oil based paint, has evaporated, leaving the paint to set when the resin binders and colour pigments amalgamate to form a layer of paint film. The colour of the paint you see at this point may not exactly be the same you see on the paint catalogues or paint swatches. The color will eventually surface upon the curing process. Curing takes up to a few weeks and is basically a process where oxidation of the applied paint takes place. When the paint is applied and exposed to air and oxygen and polymerizes the binding component, tightening the whole paint structure as the polymers bond together. This is when the inner or underlying layers of the paint and primer have all been completely dried.
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作者:功夫熊猫 (等级:?? - 无法无天,发帖:73464) 发表:2016-12-16 11:24:43  13楼
有都是有的~ 通风才是王道, 空调的原理是吸进室内空气冷凝后再吹出来~
又不是从室外吸空气然后冷却后送入室内。。。 (你试试开空调的通风模式看看?)

总之 只有开窗通风才是王道,大约1个月就没什么味道了,想地板,餐桌这种暴露面积大都是散的很快的

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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 11:29:53  14楼
有都是有的~ 通风才是王道, 空调的原理是吸进室内空气冷凝后再吹出来~又不是从室外吸空气然后冷却后送入室内。。。 (你试试开空调的通风模式看看?) 总之 只有开窗通风才是王道,大约1个月就没什么味道了,想地板,餐桌这种暴露面积大都是散的很快的
谢谢熊猫哥!俺们已经通风1个月了,得继续通风。问题不知道要散到啥时候
查了网上说甲醛的挥发期是10-15年, 细思极恐哇!

因为这个甲醛精密检测仪如果放地板上那肯定噌噌噌的就危险值0.3以上了,稍微高一些就超出0.1的不安全值,开着窗这种基本就是0.13。因为看太多国内新装修房子入住什么白血病之类被吓到了。总之, 得继续通风。
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作者:Horny (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:435) 发表:2016-12-16 11:30:44  15楼
完全不懂啊,而且装修商也没有提这方便。早知道宁愿贵我也要选水性漆因为家里有孩子的。但是我问他们这个漆的问题的时候,回答说坡县都一样的!这是因为测出来一个月还超标我才去做Research然后发现这个水性漆的。
可能装修商自己也不清楚。。。
我当时问了几个装修商都不知道,都要回去跟他们磨地板的工人确认。还好我事前做了调查,因为家里有小孩
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作者:功夫熊猫 (等级:?? - 无法无天,发帖:73464) 发表:2016-12-16 11:31:32  16楼
谢谢熊猫哥!俺们已经通风1个月了,得继续通风。问题不知道要散到啥时候查了网上说甲醛的挥发期是10-15年, 细思极恐哇! 因为这个甲醛精密检测仪如果放地板上那肯定噌噌噌的就危险值0.3以上了,稍微高一些就超出0.1的不安全值,开着窗这种基本就是0.13。因为看太多国内新装修房子入住什么白血病之类被吓到了。总之, 得继续通风。
目测你的仪器是淘宝山寨货 你不妨碍试试
在空旷处开此仪器十分钟以上看是不是会得到超标结果你懂的
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 11:33:25  17楼
目测你的仪器是淘宝山寨货 你不妨碍试试在空旷处开此仪器十分钟以上看是不是会得到超标结果你懂的
啊?好,我回家试试。
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作者:liuliu2010 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:217) 发表:2016-12-16 11:34:41  18楼
可能装修商自己也不清楚。。。我当时问了几个装修商都不知道,都要回去跟他们磨地板的工人确认。还好我事前做了调查,因为家里有小孩
真的。我就是意识太晚做调查太晚了。希望这个帖子给大家一个提醒吧
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作者:顾小熊 (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:403) 发表:2016-12-16 13:15:58  19楼
新加坡对甲醛认识不够
国内小孩白血病,90%是装修过才得的。这话是钟南山说的
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作者:Newtimes (等级:3 - 略知一二,发帖:3358) 发表:2016-12-16 13:54:30  20楼
Oil based Paint or Water based Paint? What are emulsion paints? Acrylic Paints?&nbsp;Water soluble&nbsp;Paints? Latex Paints? Which types of paint are water based and which are oil based paints? Oil based paints are also known as alkyd based paints, petroleum based paints, hydrocarbon based paints or solvent based paints. Water based paints&nbsp;comprise terms such&nbsp;as acrylic water based paint, latex paint, aqueous solvent based paint&nbsp;or water soluble emulsion paint. For someone who is unfamiliar with the types of paint to use for walls, furniture, windows, gates and doors for home, choosing the right paint can be a challenge. Today, 90% of commercial paints available for home painting or commercial painting are water based paints. Painting contractors who once used oil based paints primarily for exterior painting & outdoor furniture painting have now switched to water based paints such as acrylic latex paints due to the improvisation and enhancement of emulsion paint composition and properties that (more...)
麻烦翻译一下
至少也总结一下吧……
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