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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-11 13:04:58  61楼
分级循环赛曁棋艺水平单一分级制 is a good system ......after we used the system in 2006 (24 players in 3 groups) and 2007 (20 players in 4 groups), we will review and fine tune the system details for future years. So far, we could notice that instead of round robin system for all players (23 or 19 rounds), our players just need to play with those players having about the same level (11 or 8 rounds), Phase 3 擂台赛 will take care of players with too high or too low grouping before the competition started. Furthermore, a 100% participation rate for 20 players over 3 days in this year implies that weekend is still a better period for internal competition as compared to more than 10 wednesdays each in the last three internal competitions although weekday could have more players registered initially.
Minimum Number of Rounds in Future Years .....

from the review of method used in 2006 and 2007 for 分级循环赛曁棋艺水平单一分级制, we may consider to introduce minimum number of rounds for all players due to :

2006 -- 8 players played up to 7 rounds in Phase 1 only, i.e. they did not need to play in Phase 2 (4 more rounds).

2007 -- 2 players played 3 rounds in Phase 1 only, i.e. they did not need to play in Phase 2 (3 more rounds).

With the above, we may consider to have the minimum number of rounds is 5 or

mimimum number of rounds > 50% of maximum number of rounds.

Using the figures from 2006 and 2007, the minimum number of rounds are :

2006 -- 6 (maximum was 11 for Phases 1 & 2)

2007 -- 5 (maximum was 8 for Phases 1 & 2)

The proposal is for the considerations by planners of future internal competitions.



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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-15 22:57:22  62楼
The 2007 Internal Competition Ranking before Phase 3 .....The Bishan EXCO last night discussed and agreed that after Phase 3, the 20 players will be divided under 4 levels (as in 2006) of 5 players each for the use by future internal compettions if needed, The ranking before Phase 3 as below : (more...)
Study of Anchorvale CC Fast Game and Bishan Internal Competition ..

from the records, Bishan has 7 members participated in Anchorvale CC Fast Game but none of them in the Top 15 .....


Ranking in Ranking in Bishan
Anchorvale CC Fast Game Internal Competition

17 not free to join internal competition

22 10

23 (10 yrs old) 14 (攻擂 on 16 Dec at 2 pm.)

26 7

29 3

32 2

34 18


should I conclude that those performed well in Bishan Internal Competition (60 minutes system) could not play 10 minutes fast game ???!!!

Yes, currently we should pay attention to 30 minutes to 60 minutes system first, 10 minutes fast game area should be considered with lower priority at the moment.
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作者:香陵居士 (等级:16 - 好恐怖呀,发帖:22662) 发表:2007-12-16 00:18:31  63楼
还是发文本好了此盘是内部比赛第3轮,我执黑与洪帮主的一盘棋,感觉我已经反先,无奈还是没有胜出,末局觉得红有机会胜出,可惜洪帮主没有下出。 1. 炮八平五 马8进7 2. 马八进七 车1进1 3. 车九平八 马2进1 4. 士四进五 车1平6 5. 马二进一 卒1进1 6. 车八进四 车6进3 7. 炮二平四 马1进2 8. 车八平二 马2进3 9. 炮五平六 车9平8 10. 兵一进一 炮2平3 11. 相三进五 炮8退1 12. 炮六进六 卒9进1 13. 马一退三 炮8平6 14. 车二进五 马7退8 15. 炮四平三 卒9进1 16. 车一进四 马8进9 17. 车一平六 马9进8 18. 炮三进四 马3进5 19. 马三进五 炮3进5 20. 炮三平七 炮3退3 21. 炮六退三 马8进6 22. 炮六平九 炮3进3 23. 炮九进四 士6进5 24. 车六平七 马6进5 25. 相七进五 炮3退4 26. 车七进二 车6平1 27. 炮九退三 车1进2 28. 炮九平五 象3进5 29. 炮五平二 车1平5 30. 炮二进三 炮6退1
借一下来测试动态棋盘:
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-16 04:07:52  64楼
Study of Anchorvale CC Fast Game and Bishan Internal Competition .. from the records, Bishan has 7 members participated in Anchorvale CC Fast Game but none of them in the Top 15 ..... Ranking in Ranking in Bishan Anchorvale CC Fast Game Internal Competition 17 not free to join internal competition 22 10 23 (10 yrs old) 14 (攻擂 on 16 Dec at 2 pm.) 26 7 29 3 32 2 34 18 should I conclude that those performed well in Bishan Internal Competition (60 minutes system) could not play 10 minutes fast game ???!!! Yes, currently we should pay attention to 30 minutes to 60 minutes system first, 10 minutes fast game area should be considered with lower priority at the moment.
To align those figures .....

Ranking in ----------------Ranking in Bishan
Anchorvale CC Fast Game ---Internal Competition

17 ------------------------not free to join internal competition

22 ------------------------10

23 (10 yrs old) -----------14 (攻擂 on 16 Dec at 2 pm.)

26 -------------------------7

29 -------------------------3

32 -------------------------2

34 ------------------------18
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-16 10:55:41  65楼
分级循环赛曁棋艺水平单一分级制 is a good system ......after we used the system in 2006 (24 players in 3 groups) and 2007 (20 players in 4 groups), we will review and fine tune the system details for future years. So far, we could notice that instead of round robin system for all players (23 or 19 rounds), our players just need to play with those players having about the same level (11 or 8 rounds), Phase 3 擂台赛 will take care of players with too high or too low grouping before the competition started. Furthermore, a 100% participation rate for 20 players over 3 days in this year implies that weekend is still a better period for internal competition as compared to more than 10 wednesdays each in the last three internal competitions although weekday could have more players registered initially.
使各队从一开始就与实力接近的队伍交锋 .....
分级循环赛曁棋艺水平单一分级制 is having the same concept ......

just need to play with those players having about the same level -- key point


比赛编对方式改动的目的则是为了减少过去奥赛前两轮对手实力悬殊过大的情况。使各队从一开始就与实力接近的队伍交锋,使比赛更为激烈。


国际象棋奥赛赛制发生重大改变 由场分高低定名次
发布时间 [2007-12-12 10:38:00]
国际象棋奥赛赛制发生重大改变 由场分高低定名次

http://sports.sina.com.cn 2007年12月12日10:03 新浪体育

  新浪体育讯 前不久国际棋联在土耳其安塔利亚召开了第78次会议。会议进行了讨论了多项议题,其中之一即是讨论对国际象棋奥赛赛制进行改革。昨天国 际棋联正式宣布从2008年德国德累斯顿奥赛开始对奥赛赛制实施的一系列重大改变。具体改变如下:

  1、台次和人数改变。女子奥赛由原来的三个台次增至四个台次。每队成员由原来的四人变为五人,其中四人上场,一人替补。男子奥赛仍为四 个台次,但每队成员由原来的六人减为五人,即替补队员减少一人。这样,男女奥赛都将比赛四个台次,各支队伍都将由五名队员组成。

  2、轮次改变。比赛轮次由原来的14轮(或13轮)改为11轮。自从1976年引入瑞士制以来,国际象棋奥赛一直是14轮(有时为13轮)。

  3、比赛编对方式发生重大变化。(以120支队伍为例)首先将参赛队伍按等级分由高到低排列。

  在首轮比赛的配对时,给列表前半部分的队伍(即等级分排名前60的队伍)加上一个初始“浮动积分”。以造成如下的配对效果:首轮配对为 1-31、2-32、3-33 ... 29-59、30-60,然后是61-91, 62-92, 63-93。而不再向以前奥赛那样编对:1-61, 2-62, 3-63。

  在第二轮比赛中:(仍以120支队伍为例)

  ★队伍列表前半部分(即等级分排名前60的队伍)的首轮获胜的各队之间将进行编对,编对形势应该为1-16, 2-17...

  ★队伍列表后半部分(即等级分排名后60的队伍)的首轮输棋的各队之间将进行编对,编对形势应该为91-106, 92-107...

  ★队伍列表前半部分(即等级分排名前60的队伍)的首轮输棋的各队将与队伍列表后半部分(即等级分排名后60的队伍)首轮赢棋的队伍编对 ,编对形势应为31-61, 32-62, 33-63 ...

  在第三轮比赛编对时,将首轮中(为等级分排名前60的队伍)所加的“浮动积分”去掉,按照各队真实积分进行编对。

  4、区分名次方式改变。由以局分区分名次改为由场分区分名次。每队胜一场得2分,平一场得1分,输一场得0分。

  5、破同分规则

  △场分相同的情况下,将按照所谓的“梭尼伯恩-伯格(Sonnenborn-Berger)”分高低来区分名次。所有11个对手中取场分较高的前10个对手 ,然后计算梭尼伯恩-伯格分。

  梭尼伯恩-伯格分 = 每个对手的场分 ×本队与该对手的比赛得分。梭尼伯恩-伯格分高者名次列前。

  △如果“梭尼伯恩-伯格”分相同,则需比较所谓的“布赫兹(Buchholz)”分。

  布赫兹分 = 所有对手的场分总和 - 场分最低的对手的场分。

  △如果“布赫兹”分仍相同,则比较各队的局分。

  在这些改动中,最大的变动应该说是由局分定名次改为按场分定名次。在国际象棋界各种世界性和洲际团体赛中,奥赛是唯一以局分定名次的团体赛。以往奥赛中,各队均以多抢分为首要目的。而此次改动必将对各支队伍的排兵布阵和比赛策略产生影响。但这并不是说局分不再重要,因为在破同分的规则中,梭尼伯恩-伯格分是由场分和局分共同计算出的。当场分相同时,局分越高,梭尼伯恩-伯格分也将越有利。比赛编对方式改动的目的则是为了减少过去奥赛前两轮对手实力悬殊过大的情况。使各队从一开始就与实力接近的队伍交锋,使比赛更为激烈。(塔尔)
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作者:marauder (等级:2 - 初出茅庐,发帖:97) 发表:2007-12-16 12:10:38  66楼
To align those figures ..... Ranking in ----------------Ranking in Bishan Anchorvale CC Fast Game ---Internal Competition 17 ------------------------not free to join internal competition 22 ------------------------10 23 (10 yrs old) -----------14 (攻擂 on 16 Dec at 2 pm.) 26 -------------------------7 29 -------------------------3 32 -------------------------2 34 ------------------------18
There is hope for Singapore Chess Scene
Tan Jing Ling is a promising young lad. Is he the one that you are referring to, 棋人生? The 10 years old that is currently representing Pasir Ris East CC? He told me that he is being coached by Xiong Guo Wei.

Anyway, in round 2 of the Anchorvale CC Fast Chess Competition, I was up against him (at least I think it is him). In that game, I gave a blind piece and was losing, only to be saved by the clock. According to the rules in this competition, even after the flag for the player with an overwhelming advantage in position has dropped, the arbitor can still overrule the defeat to become a draw (?!). Though I would like to comfirm this ruling again, I was happy to see that there are a lot of up and coming youth players in the chess scenes. It was a good game nonetheless.
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2007-12-16 18:13:56  67楼
There is hope for Singapore Chess SceneTan Jing Ling is a promising young lad. Is he the one that you are referring to, 棋人生? The 10 years old that is currently representing Pasir Ris East CC? He told me that he is being coached by Xiong Guo Wei. Anyway, in round 2 of the Anchorvale CC Fast Chess Competition, I was up against him (at least I think it is him). In that game, I gave a blind piece and was losing, only to be saved by the clock. According to the rules in this competition, even after the flag for the player with an overwhelming advantage in position has dropped, the arbitor can still overrule the defeat to become a draw (?!). Though I would like to comfirm this ruling again, I was happy to see that there are a lot of up and coming youth players in the chess scenes. It was a good game nonetheless.
Yes, we spoke at SIXGA this afternoon ......

陈靖麟 (攻擂) lost to 吴荣华 (擂台主), this is the end of Bishan 2007 Internal Competition, the ranking list is confirmed as below :

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_10973238
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作者:几度 (等级:12 - 登峰造极,发帖:3128) 发表:2007-12-16 19:14:00  68楼
借一下来测试动态棋盘: (more...)
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作者:香陵居士 (等级:16 - 好恐怖呀,发帖:22662) 发表:2007-12-16 22:42:18  69楼
很好hgchess 是华工网?
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作者:棋人生 (等级:7 - 出类拔萃,发帖:2167) 发表:2008-01-24 00:48:30  70楼
Minimum Number of Rounds in Future Years ..... from the review of method used in 2006 and 2007 for 分级循环赛曁棋艺水平单一分级制, we may consider to introduce minimum number of rounds for all players due to : 2006 -- 8 players played up to 7 rounds in Phase 1 only, i.e. they did not need to play in Phase 2 (4 more rounds). 2007 -- 2 players played 3 rounds in Phase 1 only, i.e. they did not need to play in Phase 2 (3 more rounds). With the above, we may consider to have the minimum number of rounds is 5 or mimimum number of rounds > 50% of maximum number of rounds. Using the figures from 2006 and 2007, the minimum number of rounds are : 2006 -- 6 (maximum was 11 for Phases 1 & 2) 2007 -- 5 (maximum was 8 for Phases 1 & 2) The proposal is for the considerations by planners of future internal competitions.
Bishan EXCO meeting has decided that there is no need to have this ...
additional condition (Minimum Number of Rounds) as the existing system (分级循环赛曁棋艺水平单一分级制 is a good and workable system) used in 2007 Internal Competition is working well.

Anyway, the organiser for 2008 Internal Competition may wish to improve the existing system if possible.
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