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Why I Am Not A Christian
by Bertrand Russell

Introductory note: Russell delivered this lecture on March 6, 1927 to the National Secular Society, South London Branch, at Battersea Town Hall. Published in pamphlet form in that same year, the essay subsequently achieved new fame with Paul Edwards' edition of Russell's book, Why I Am Not a Christian and Other Essays ... (1957).

As your Chairman has told you, the subject about which I am going to speak to you tonight is "Why I Am Not a Christian." Perhaps it would be as well, first of all, to try to make out what one means by the word Christian. It is used these days in a very loose sense by a great many people. Some people mean no more by it than a person who attempts to live a good life. In that sense I suppose there would be Christians in all sects and creeds; but I do not think that that is the proper sense of the word, if only because it would imply that all the people who are not Christians -- all the Buddhists, Confucians, Mohammedans, and so on -- are not trying to live a good life. I do not mean by a Christian any person who tries to live decently according to his lights. I think that you must have a certain amount of definite belief before you have a right to call yourself a Christian. The word does not have quite such a full-blooded meaning now as it had in the times of St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. In those days, if a man said that he was a Christian it was known what he meant. You accepted a whole collection of creeds which were set out with great precision, and every single syllable of those creeds you believed with the whole strength of your convictions.

What Is a Christian?
Nowadays it is not quite that. We have to be a little more vague in our meaning of Christianity. I think, however, that there are two different items which are quite essential to anybody calling himself a Christian. The first is one of a dogmatic nature -- namely, that you must believe in God and immortality. If you do not believe in those two things, I do not think that you can properly call yourself a Christian. Then, further than that, as the name implies, you must have some kind of belief about Christ. The Mohammedans, for instance, also believe in God and in immortality, and yet they would not call themselves Christians. I think you must have at the very lowest the belief that Christ was, if not divine, at least the best and wisest of men. If you are not going to believe that much about Christ, I do not think you have any right to call yourself a Christian. Of course, there is another sense, which you find in Whitaker's Almanack and in geography books, where the population of the world is said to be divided into Christians, Mohammedans, Buddhists, fetish worshipers, and so on; and in that sense we are all Christians. The geography books count us all in, but that is a purely geographical sense, which I suppose we can ignore.Therefore I take it that when I tell you why I am not a Christian I have to tell you two different things: first, why I do not believe in God and in immortality; and, secondly, why I do not think that Christ was the best and wisest of men, although I grant him a very high degree of moral goodness.

But for the successful efforts of unbelievers in the past, I could not take so elastic a definition of Christianity as that. As I said before, in olden days it had a much more full-blooded sense. For instance, it included he belief in hell. Belief in eternal hell-fire was an essential item of Christian belief until pretty recent times. In this country, as you know, it ceased to be an essential item because of a decision of the Privy Council, and from that decision the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Archbishop of York dissented; but in this country our religion is settled by Act of Parliament, and therefore the Privy Council was able to override their Graces and hell was no longer necessary to a Christian. Consequently I shall not insist that a Christian must believe in hell.

The Existence of God
To come to this question of the existence of God: it is a large and serious question, and if I were to attempt to deal with it in any adequate manner I should have to keep you here until Kingdom Come, so that you will have to excuse me if I deal with it in a somewhat summary fashion. You know, of course, that the Catholic Church has laid it down as a dogma that the existence of God can be proved by the unaided reason. That is a somewhat curious dogma, but it is one of their dogmas. They had to introduce it because at one time the freethinkers adopted the habit of saying that there were such and such arguments which mere reason might urge against the existence of God, but of course they knew as a matter of faith that God did exist. The arguments and the reasons were set out at great length, and the Catholic Church felt that they must stop it. Therefore they laid it down that the existence of God can be proved by the unaided reason and they had to set up what they considered were arguments to prove it. There are, of course, a number of them, but I shall take only a few.

The First-cause Argument
Perhaps the simplest and easiest to understand is the argument of the First Cause. (It is maintained that everything we see in this world has a cause, and as you go back in the chain of causes further and further you must come to a First Cause, and to that First Cause you give the name of God.) That argument, I suppose, does not carry very much weight nowadays, because, in the first place, cause is not quite what it used to be. The philosophers and the men of science have got going on cause, and it has not anything like the vitality it used to have; but, apart from that, you can see that the argument that there must be a First Cause is one that cannot have any validity. I may say that when I was a young man and was debating these questions very seriously in my mind, I for a long time accepted the argument of the First Cause, until one day, at the age of eighteen, I read John Stuart Mill's Autobiography, and I there found this sentence: "My father taught me that the question 'Who made me?' cannot be answered, since it immediately suggests the further question `Who made god?'" That very simple sentence showed me, as I still think, the fallacy in the argument of the First Cause. If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu's view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, "How about the tortoise?" the Indian said, "Suppose we change the subject." The argument is really no better than that. There is no reason why the world could not have come into being without a cause; nor, on the other hand, is there any reason why it should not have always existed. There is no reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all. The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the poverty of our imagination. Therefore, perhaps, I need not waste any more time upon the argument about the First Cause.

The Natural-law Argument
Then there is a very common argument from natural law. That was a favorite argument all through the eighteenth century, especially under the influence of Sir Isaac Newton and his cosmogony. People observed the planets going around the sun according to the law of gravitation, and they thought that God had given a behest to these planets to move in that particular fashion, and that was why they did so. That was, of course, a convenient and simple explanation that saved them the trouble of looking any further for explanations of the law of gravitation. Nowadays we explain the law of gravitation in a somewhat complicated fashion that Einstein has introduced. I do not propose to give you a lecture on the law of gravitation, as interpreted by Einstein, because that again would take some time; at any rate, you no longer have the sort of natural law that you had in the Newtonian system, where, for some reason that nobody could understand, nature behaved in a uniform fashion. We now find that a great many things we thought were natural laws are really human conventions. You know that even in the remotest depths of stellar space there are still three feet to a yard. That is, no doubt, a very remarkable fact, but you would hardly call it a law of nature. And a great many things that have been regarded as laws of nature are of that kind. On the other hand, where you can get down to any knowledge of what atoms actually do, you will find they are much less subject to law than people thought, and that the laws at which you arrive are statistical averages of just the sort that would emerge from chance. There is, as we all know, a law that if you throw dice you will get double sixes only about once in thirty-six times, and we do not regard that as evidence that the fall of the dice is regulated by design; on the contrary, if the double sixes came every time we should think that there was design. The laws of nature are of that sort as regards a great many of them. They are statistical averages such as would emerge from the laws of chance; and that makes this whole business of natural law much less impressive than it formerly was. Quite apart from that, which represents the momentary state of science that may change tomorrow, the whole idea that natural laws imply a lawgiver is due to a confusion between natural and human laws. Human laws are behests commanding you to behave a certain way, in which you may choose to behave, or you may choose not to behave; but natural laws are a description of how things do in fact behave, and being a mere description of what they in fact do, you cannot argue that there must be somebody who told them to do that, because even supposing that there were, you are then faced with the question "Why did God issue just those natural laws and no others?" If you say that he did it simply from his own good pleasure, and without any reason, you then find that there is something which is not subject to law, and so your train of natural law is interrupted. If you say, as more orthodox theologians do, that in all the laws which God issues he had a reason for giving those laws rather than others -- the reason, of course, being to create the best universe, although you would never think it to look at it -- if there were a reason for the laws which God gave, then God himself was subject to law, and therefore you do not get any advantage by introducing God as an intermediary. You really have a law outside and anterior to the divine edicts, and God does not serve your purpose, because he is not the ultimate lawgiver. In short, this whole argument about natural law no longer has anything like the strength that it used to have. I am traveling on in time in my review of the arguments. The arguments that are used for the existence of God change their character as time goes on. They were at first hard intellectual arguments embodying certain quite definite fallacies. As we come to modern times they become less respectable intellectually and more and more affected by a kind of moralizing vagueness.

The Argument from Design
The next step in the process brings us to the argument from design. You all know the argument from design: everything in the world is made just so that we can manage to live in the world, and if the world was ever so little different, we could not manage to live in it. That is the argument from design. It sometimes takes a rather curious form; for instance, it is argued that rabbits have white tails in order to be easy to shoot. I do not know how rabbits would view that application. It is an easy argument to parody. You all know Voltaire's remark, that obviously the nose was designed to be such as to fit spectacles. That sort of parody has turned out to be not nearly so wide of the mark as it might have seemed in the eighteenth century, because since the time of Darwin we understand much better why living creatures are adapted to their environment. It is not that their environment was made to be suitable to them but that they grew to be suitable to it, and that is the basis of adaptation. There is no evidence of design about it.

When you come to look into this argument from design, it is a most astonishing thing that people can believe that this world, with all the things that are in it, with all its defects, should be the best that omnipotence and omniscience have been able to produce in millions of years. I really cannot believe it. Do you think that, if you were granted omnipotence and omniscience and millions of years in which to perfect your world, you could produce nothing better than the Ku Klux Klan or the Fascists? Moreover, if you accept the ordinary laws of science, you have to suppose that human life and life in general on this planet will die out in due course: it is a stage in the decay of the solar system; at a certain stage of decay you get the sort of conditions of temperature and so forth which are suitable to protoplasm, and there is life for a short time in the life of the whole solar system. You see in the moon the sort of thing to which the earth is tending -- something dead, cold, and lifeless.

I am told that that sort of view is depressing, and people will sometimes tell you that if they believed that, they would not be able to go on living. Do not believe it; it is all nonsense. Nobody really worries about much about what is going to happen millions of years hence. Even if they think they are worrying much about that, they are really deceiving themselves. They are worried about something much more mundane, or it may merely be a bad digestion; but nobody is really seriously rendered unhappy by the thought of something that is going to happen to this world millions and millions of years hence. Therefore, although it is of course a gloomy view to suppose that life will die out -- at least I suppose we may say so, although sometimes when I contemplate the things that people do with their lives I think it is almost a consolation -- it is not such as to render life miserable. It merely makes you turn your attention to other things.

The Moral Arguments for Deity
Now we reach one stage further in what I shall call the intellectual descent that the Theists have made in their argumentations, and we come to what are called the moral arguments for the existence of God. You all know, of course, that there used to be in the old days three intellectual arguments for the existence of God, all of which were disposed of by Immanuel Kant in the Critique of Pure Reason; but no sooner had he disposed of those arguments than he invented a new one, a moral argument, and that quite convinced him. He was like many people: in intellectual matters he was skeptical, but in moral matters he believed implicitly in the maxims that he had imbibed at his mother's knee. That illustrates what the psychoanalysts so much emphasize -- the immensely stronger hold upon us that our very early associations have than those of later times.

Kant, as I say, invented a new moral argument for the existence of God, and that in varying forms was extremely popular during the nineteenth century. It has all sorts of forms. One form is to say there would be no right or wrong unless God existed. I am not for the moment concerned with whether there is a difference between right and wrong, or whether there is not: that is another question. The point I am concerned with is that, if you are quite sure there is a difference between right and wrong, then you are in this situation: Is that difference due to God's fiat or is it not? If it is due to God's fiat, then for God himself there is no difference between right and wrong, and it is no longer a significant statement to say that God is good. If you are going to say, as theologians do, that God is good, you must then say that right and wrong have some meaning which is independent of God's fiat, because God's fiats are good and not bad independently of the mere fact that he made them. If you are going to say that, you will then have to say that it is not only through God that right and wrong came into being, but that they are in their essence logically anterior to God. You could, of course, if you liked, say that there was a superior deity who gave orders to the God that made this world, or could take up the line that some of the gnostics took up -- a line which I often thought was a very plausible one -- that as a matter of fact this world that we know was made by the devil at a moment when God was not looking. There is a good deal to be said for that, and I am not concerned to refute it.

The Argument for the Remedying of Injustice
Then there is another very curious form of moral argument, which is this: they say that the existence of God is required in order to bring justice into the world. In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying; but if you are going to have justice in the universe as a whole you have to suppose a future life to redress the balance of life here on earth. So they say that there must be a God, and there must be Heaven and Hell in order that in the long run there may be justice. That is a very curious argument. If you looked at the matter from a scientific point of view, you would say, "After all, I only know this world. I do not know about the rest of the universe, but so far as one can argue at all on probabilities one would say that probably this world is a fair sample, and if there is injustice here the odds are that there is injustice elsewhere also." Supposing you got a crate of oranges that you opened, and you found all the top layer of oranges bad, you would not argue, "The underneath ones must be good, so as to redress the balance." You would say, "Probably the whole lot is a bad consignment"; and that is really what a scientific person would argue about the universe. He would say, "Here we find in this world a great deal of injustice, and so far as that goes that is a reason for supposing that justice does not rule in the world; and therefore so far as it goes it affords a moral argument against deity and not in favor of one." Of course I know that the sort of intellectual arguments that I have been talking to you about are not what really moves people. What really moves people to believe in God is not any intellectual argument at all. Most people believe in God because they have been taught from early infancy to do it, and that is the main reason.

Then I think that the next most powerful reason is the wish for safety, a sort of feeling that there is a big brother who will look after you. That plays a very profound part in influencing people's desire for a belief in God.

The Character of Christ
I now want to say a few words upon a topic which I often think is not quite sufficiently dealt with by Rationalists, and that is the question whether Christ was the best and the wisest of men. It is generally taken for granted that we should all agree that that was so. I do not myself. I think that there are a good many points upon which I agree with Christ a great deal more than the professing Christians do. I do not know that I could go with Him all the way, but I could go with Him much further than most professing Christians can. You will remember that He said, "Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." That is not a new precept or a new principle. It was used by Lao-tse and Buddha some 500 or 600 years before Christ, but it is not a principle which as a matter of fact Christians accept. I have no doubt that the present prime minister [Stanley Baldwin], for instance, is a most sincere Christian, but I should not advise any of you to go and smite him on one cheek. I think you might find that he thought this text was intended in a figurative sense.

Then there is another point which I consider excellent. You will remember that Christ said, "Judge not lest ye be judged." That principle I do not think you would find was popular in the law courts of Christian countries. I have known in my time quite a number of judges who were very earnest Christians, and none of them felt that they were acting contrary to Christian principles in what they did. Then Christ says, "Give to him that asketh of thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away." That is a very good principle. Your Chairman has reminded you that we are not here to talk politics, but I cannot help observing that the last general election was fought on the question of how desirable it was to turn away from him that would borrow of thee, so that one must assume that the Liberals and Conservatives of this country are composed of people who do not agree with the teaching of Christ, because they certainly did very emphatically turn away on that occasion.

Then there is one other maxim of Christ which I think has a great deal in it, but I do not find that it is very popular among some of our Christian friends. He says, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor." That is a very excellent maxim, but, as I say, it is not much practised. All these, I think, are good maxims, although they are a little difficult to live up to. I do not profess to live up to them myself; but then, after all, it is not quite the same thing as for a Christian.

Defects in Christ's Teaching
Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; and here I may say that one is not concerned with the historical question. Historically it is quite doubtful whether Christ ever existed at all, and if He did we do not know anything about him, so that I am not concerned with the historical question, which is a very difficult one. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, "Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come." Then he says, "There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom"; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, "Take no thought for the morrow," and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.

The Moral Problem
Then you come to moral questions. There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ's moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment. Christ certainly as depicted in the Gospels did believe in everlasting punishment, and one does find repeatedly a vindictive fury against those people who would not listen to His preaching -- an attitude which is not uncommon with preachers, but which does somewhat detract from superlative excellence. You do not, for instance find that attitude in Socrates. You find him quite bland and urbane toward the people who would not listen to him; and it is, to my mind, far more worthy of a sage to take that line than to take the line of indignation. You probably all remember the sorts of things that Socrates was saying when he was dying, and the sort of things that he generally did say to people who did not agree with him.

You will find that in the Gospels Christ said, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of Hell." That was said to people who did not like His preaching. It is not really to my mind quite the best tone, and there are a great many of these things about Hell. There is, of course, the familiar text about the sin against the Holy Ghost: "Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven him neither in this World nor in the world to come." That text has caused an unspeakable amount of misery in the world, for all sorts of people have imagined that they have committed the sin against the Holy Ghost, and thought that it would not be forgiven them either in this world or in the world to come. I really do not think that a person with a proper degree of kindliness in his nature would have put fears and terrors of that sort into the world.

Then Christ says, "The Son of Man shall send forth his His angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity, and shall cast them into a furnace of fire; there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth"; and He goes on about the wailing and gnashing of teeth. It comes in one verse after another, and it is quite manifest to the reader that there is a certain pleasure in contemplating wailing and gnashing of teeth, or else it would not occur so often. Then you all, of course, remember about the sheep and the goats; how at the second coming He is going to divide the sheep from the goats, and He is going to say to the goats, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire." He continues, "And these shall go away into everlasting fire." Then He says again, "If thy hand offend thee, cut it off; it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into Hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched; where the worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched." He repeats that again and again also. I must say that I think all this doctrine, that hell-fire is a punishment for sin, is a doctrine of cruelty. It is a doctrine that put cruelty into the world and gave the world generations of cruel torture; and the Christ of the Gospels, if you could take Him asHis chroniclers represent Him, would certainly have to be considered partly responsible for that.

There are other things of less importance. There is the instance of the Gadarene swine, where it certainly was not very kind to the pigs to put the devils into them and make them rush down the hill into the sea. You must remember that He was omnipotent, and He could have made the devils simply go away; but He chose to send them into the pigs. Then there is the curious story of the fig tree, which always rather puzzled me. You remember what happened about the fig tree. "He was hungry; and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, He came if haply He might find anything thereon; and when He came to it He found nothing but leaves, for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it: 'No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever' . . . and Peter . . . saith unto Him: 'Master, behold the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.'" This is a very curious story, because it was not the right time of year for figs, and you really could not blame the tree. I cannot myself feel that either in the matter of wisdom or in the matter of virtue Christ stands quite as high as some other people known to history. I think I should put Buddha and Socrates above Him in those respects.

The Emotional Factor
As I said before, I do not think that the real reason why people accept religion has anything to do with argumentation. They accept religion on emotional grounds. One is often told that it is a very wrong thing to attack religion, because religion makes men virtuous. So I am told; I have not noticed it. You know, of course, the parody of that argument in Samuel Butler's book, Erewhon Revisited. You will remember that in Erewhon there is a certain Higgs who arrives in a remote country, and after spending some time there he escapes from that country in a balloon. Twenty years later he comes back to that country and finds a new religion in which he is worshiped under the name of the "Sun Child," and it is said that he ascended into heaven. He finds that the Feast of the Ascension is about to be celebrated, and he hears Professors Hanky and Panky say to each other that they never set eyes on the man Higgs, and they hope they never will; but they are the high priests of the religion of the Sun Child. He is very indignant, and he comes up to them, and he says, "I am going to expose all this humbug and tell the people of Erewhon that it was only I, the man Higgs, and I went up in a balloon." He was told, "You must not do that, because all the morals of this country are bound round this myth, and if they once know that you did not ascend into Heaven they will all become wicked"; and so he is persuaded of that and he goes quietly away.

That is the idea -- that we should all be wicked if we did not hold to the Christian religion. It seems to me that the people who have held to it have been for the most part extremely wicked. You find this curious fact, that the more intense has been the religion of any period and the more profound has been the dogmatic belief, the greater has been the cruelty and the worse has been the state of affairs. In the so-called ages of faith, when men really did believe the Christian religion in all its completeness, there was the Inquisition, with all its tortures; there were millions of unfortunate women burned as witches; and there was every kind of cruelty practiced upon all sorts of people in the name of religion.

You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.

How the Churches Have Retarded Progress
You may think that I am going too far when I say that that is still so. I do not think that I am. Take one fact. You will bear with me if I mention it. It is not a pleasant fact, but the churches compel one to mention facts that are not pleasant. Supposing that in this world that we live in today an inexperienced girl is married to a syphilitic man; in that case the Catholic Church says, "This is an indissoluble sacrament. You must endure celibacy or stay together. And if you stay together, you must not use birth control to prevent the birth of syphilitic children." Nobody whose natural sympathies have not been warped by dogma, or whose moral nature was not absolutely dead to all sense of suffering, could maintain that it is right and proper that that state of things should continue.

That is only an example. There are a great many ways in which, at the present moment, the church, by its insistence upon what it chooses to call morality, inflicts upon all sorts of people undeserved and unnecessary suffering. And of course, as we know, it is in its major part an opponent still of progress and improvement in all the ways that diminish suffering in the world, because it has chosen to label as morality a certain narrow set of rules of conduct which have nothing to do with human happiness; and when you say that this or that ought to be done because it would make for human happiness, they think that has nothing to do with the matter at all. "What has human happiness to do with morals? The object of morals is not to make people happy."

Fear, the Foundation of Religion
Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown and partly, as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes. Fear is the basis of the whole thing -- fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. It is because fear is at the basis of those two things. In this world we can now begin a little to understand things, and a little to master them by help of science, which has forced its way step by step against the Christian religion, against the churches, and against the opposition of all the old precepts. Science can help us to get over this craven fear in which mankind has lived for so many generations. Science can teach us, and I think our own hearts can teach us, no longer to look around for imaginary supports, no longer to invent allies in the sky, but rather to look to our own efforts here below to make this world a better place to live in, instead of the sort of place that the churches in all these centuries have made it.

What We Must Do
We want to stand upon our own feet and look fair and square at the world -- its good facts, its bad facts, its beauties, and its ugliness; see the world as it is and be not afraid of it. Conquer the world by intelligence and not merely by being slavishly subdued by the terror that comes from it. The whole conception of God is a conception derived from the ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men. When you hear people in church debasing themselves and saying that they are miserable sinners, and all the rest of it, it seems contemptible and not worthy of self-respecting human beings. We ought to stand up and look the world frankly in the face. We ought to make the best we can of the world, and if it is not so good as we wish, after all it will still be better than what these others have made of it in all these ages. A good world needs knowledge, kindliness, and courage; it does not need a regretful hankering after the past or a fettering of the free intelligence by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men. It needs a fearless outlook and a free intelligence. It needs hope for the future, not looking back all the time toward a past that is dead, which we trust will be far surpassed by the future that our intelligence can create.
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我已经忍无可忍,自由交流嘛!也来看看这个老头的video,话糙理不糙。 草莓果乐   (417 bytes , 302reads )
楼主.... 阿雅   (371 bytes , 336reads )
谢谢阿雅的善意提醒, 偶然冒泡   (436 bytes , 324reads )
看到楼主说着 "都是被无神论的洗脑背景", 彻底无语了阿无语了 7-UP   (0 bytes , 233reads )
世界上还有这么多信其它宗教,你先去找他们嘛,干嘛老找软柿子捏,找没信仰的人下手 鱼片粥   (75 bytes , 324reads )
说的没错,没看这帖的时候,我看到楼主在型男靓女发的说自己40岁了皮肤还“超好”的帖 lemon_t   (106 bytes , 299reads )
凡事包容,凡事相信,凡事盼望,凡事忍耐。 毒鼠强   (117 bytes , 265reads )
您不幸再次看走眼了... 偶然冒泡   (251 bytes , 299reads )
我绝倒。。。那个不是你本人么。。。那你为啥要我删贴说是你本人nia 喜宝   (0 bytes , 235reads )
说起房版 ning82   (148 bytes , 421reads )
汗, 偶以为什么大事... aspernet   (0 bytes , 218reads )
哈哈 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 205reads )
楼主你这么高境界,给晓鸥同学赞助一个疗程医疗费怎么样?那样大家一定都闭嘴了 lemon_t   (14 bytes , 264reads )
您看了半天还是没明白: 偶然冒泡   (98 bytes , 285reads )
我懒得看也无需明白,我怕反胃 lemon_t   (0 bytes , 201reads )
另外麻烦楼主别再回我帖 lemon_t   (0 bytes , 155reads )
记起十多年前在Dover路上的一家基督教寄宿学校生活时候的事情了 迷玉   (404 bytes , 507reads )
哇,你是谁,同届同宿舍的。。。。 大象   (0 bytes , 232reads )
纯爷们啊 shxw   (260 bytes , 301reads )
什么信仰结什么果子 偶然冒泡   (87 bytes , 295reads )
这个因人而异吧 wink   (242 bytes , 235reads )
恩、您是啥果子大家都看出来了、、 围观群众   (94 bytes , 240reads )
你家主教你的抬高自己贬低别人啊 lemon_t   (92 bytes , 243reads )
很抱歉,偶上面的回帖里,并没有任何一个“形容词”, 偶然冒泡   (245 bytes , 308reads )
像楼主这样的人坚定了我不信的决心 鱼片粥   (46 bytes , 278reads )
楼主并不觉得自己很虔诚,楼主只是个很普通的蒙恩罪人。 偶然冒泡   (110 bytes , 304reads )
您等等吧~您从哪里看出来 某算命网友 在 痛苦中 而且不知情木有选择了?? 马甲甲甲   (877 bytes , 281reads )
自己被宗教“感召”了然后又很激动的要去“感化”其他人的,不叫宗教,那叫传染病 鱼片粥   (0 bytes , 226reads )
同样坚决反对基督教的各式拉拢, 鄙视“半路出家" 的们 关注   (207 bytes , 467reads )
建议开个宗教版吧 shxw   (55 bytes , 225reads )
支持! 偶然冒泡   (104 bytes , 247reads )
我觉得你们信基督的先和信天主的什么的商量好了,把小本本编圆了再出来找其它人 鱼片粥   (0 bytes , 247reads )
回帖多是因为大家被恶心到了需要发泄一下 lemon_t   (12 bytes , 250reads )
同申请 wink   (12 bytes , 211reads )
报告!我天地会的! 围观群众   (0 bytes , 171reads )
我是白蓮教滴 本日、未熟者   (2 bytes , 192reads )
我是黑涩会的 在月球上看世界   (1 bytes , 163reads )
说句很玩笑的话 wink   (114 bytes , 350reads )
mm这个楼好斜啊、、我猜lz很生气、、 围观群众   (18 bytes , 225reads )
可见冒泡大婶分享的多失败. shxw   (108 bytes , 248reads )
她的期待值太高 wink   (8 bytes , 221reads )
猜得不对,重新来过。 偶然冒泡   (45 bytes , 243reads )
不妨试着向上帝祷告一下,看? 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 229reads )
哈哈~ 笑死了笑死了~~ 围观群众   (46 bytes , 243reads )
这个,苦海无边,回头是岸 wink   (188 bytes , 288reads )
无脸人不错、、 围观群众   (0 bytes , 222reads )
俺就是想知道他长什么样子 wink   (28 bytes , 201reads )
好啦好啦,我不介意被你借去做model~ 围观群众   (0 bytes , 195reads )
这个,俺要男人 wink   (62 bytes , 194reads )
哇咔咔?ms某人 门中木   (4 bytes , 190reads )
wink   (34 bytes , 151reads )
我又没脱衣服你怎么知道我不是男人? 围观群众   (13 bytes , 231reads )
那你快脱啊 我们大家都在等待围观呢 在月球上看世界   (12 bytes , 187reads )
你要看裸男? 围观群众   (0 bytes , 217reads )
不是吧,是男的? 真的是男的?我不信 在月球上看世界   (28 bytes , 227reads )
怎么,我要是男的你就pie我? 围观群众   (0 bytes , 188reads )
话这样多啊,想脱就快脱啊,脱了大家围观围观顺便mo mo~~~~~~~~ 在月球上看世界   (8 bytes , 213reads )
NND,她是我的,你少抢我的妞儿 wink   (0 bytes , 199reads )
我不和你抢啊,我只是围观围观啊,我打酱油路过看看都不行啊 在月球上看世界   (26 bytes , 229reads )
裸男怎能随便让你看呢? wink   (13 bytes , 224reads )
你刚才说是你的妞啊,现在又说是裸男,到底是妞还是裸男啊 在月球上看世界   (36 bytes , 211reads )
俺调戏别人的时候都叫他妞儿 wink   (30 bytes , 207reads )
err,那楼上的介不介意我现在就去检验一下呢 wink   (0 bytes , 175reads )
快检验啊,我好期待啊~我最喜欢围观美女了~ 在月球上看世界   (10 bytes , 170reads )
同学你严肃点,上帝他老人家还在某处tk咧、、 围观群众   (6 bytes , 191reads )
同学我去考试了,考完试再鉴定哈 wink   (10 bytes , 185reads )
吃多了脑袋会缺氧 AXL   (20 bytes , 265reads )
一哥就是一哥,果然料事如神,您咋知道我现在在吃东西呢 wink   (40 bytes , 201reads )
信一哥可能还可以经常请你喝啤酒,信上帝可不见得有啤酒喝哦~ 在月球上看世界   (35 bytes , 229reads )
听说俺村方圆18里都有人找我爷爷去看风水和算命,可惜朕从来没让他算过~ 在月球上看世界   (38 bytes , 277reads )
不过推荐个求签的好地方~ 在月球上看世界   (344 bytes , 299reads )
主啊 门中木   (14 bytes , 200reads )
尼采说:上帝死了!上帝说:尼采死了! 偶然冒泡   (45 bytes , 306reads )
尼采倒是听过 门中木   (31 bytes , 206reads )
我觉得一个成熟敦厚的基督教徒在这种挑衅面前应该说 Sam_Fisher   (95 bytes , 277reads )
这话很对, 偶然冒泡   (109 bytes , 256reads )
圣经前前后后,零零散散也看过些。不少地方很有意思也很有启示。 Sam_Fisher   (50 bytes , 311reads )
马太是税吏,可能男生更喜欢条理硬朗吧 :) 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 257reads )
马太福音里描写的那个基督,最感动我 Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 263reads )
哦,原来是这样。那么罗马书呢,您读了它有啥感觉? 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 198reads )
哈哈~ 虽然不太厚道~ 围观群众   (26 bytes , 193reads )
在公共论坛,还请尊重他人信仰 Sam_Fisher   (26 bytes , 267reads )
掩藏不是尊重,只是虚伪 门中木   (0 bytes , 200reads )
顶楼上的 wink   (0 bytes , 178reads )
Z:某些著名科学家的宗教观 偶然冒泡   (7074 bytes , 269reads )
罗素的西方哲学史有上下两卷。 毒鼠强   (14 bytes , 274reads )
我都看到功利主义了,快看完了。 Sam_Fisher   (23 bytes , 207reads )
恭喜你,提纲马上就要看完了 ^^ 毒鼠强   (0 bytes , 228reads )
to our best knowledge, scientists are not preachers materialist   (461 bytes , 461reads )
范学德:我为什么不愿成为基督徒? 偶然冒泡   (137 bytes , 278reads )
范学得是谁,比罗素名气大么? 毒鼠强   (38 bytes , 363reads )
顺便说一句,我觉得 Sam_Fisher   (105 bytes , 249reads )
Both side is in the parade of idiocy. materialist   (77 bytes , 233reads )
in a matter of fact i do not know how to attack a deformed logic 毒鼠强   (145 bytes , 328reads )
您可以面带温馨的微笑,很同情的看着他/她 Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 220reads )
当然这点我很难做到,大家都说我怎么笑都像奸笑T_T Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 245reads )
肚子里藏着坏笑 毒鼠强   (26 bytes , 239reads )
你才坏呢, 讨厌~~ Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 219reads )
我觉得名气大不大没有什么关系,关键还是思辨又没有逻辑, 讲不讲道理。 Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 219reads )
ZT: 相信基督教的十大理由 偶然冒泡   (6088 bytes , 298reads )
您真是很闲那 AXL   (360 bytes , 287reads )
太搞笑了,同理可证“卧槽泥马”和“马勒戈壁”两个成语自古即有(zz百度) 杀着大全   (659 bytes , 385reads )
罗素演讲稿《我为什么不是基督徒》 Sam_Fisher   (18401 bytes , 553reads )
相关回应: 偶然冒泡   (186 bytes , 235reads )
其实主要还是转给许多刚来新加坡的小盆友们看的。 Sam_Fisher   (258 bytes , 309reads )
英文版 Sam_Fisher   (35420 bytes , 524reads )
关键在于上帝的理论无法证伪。 fool   (187 bytes , 283reads )
Fool小弟的看法,令老姐偶真的不得不深深地佩服…… 偶然冒泡   (360 bytes , 286reads )
能冒昧问下您的年龄么?您的“偶”很萝莉,但是“老姐”很大妈啊、、 围观群众   (0 bytes , 257reads )
你说话实在很有财版yeti的风格 AXL   (35 bytes , 203reads )
I see it not is a THEORY, it's the fundamental truth. materialist   (0 bytes , 268reads )
the problem for anything to claim to be a truth is fool   (1326 bytes , 344reads )
the truth is from Him, He is the Way, the only Way. materialist   (195 bytes , 309reads )
as i said, you cannot prove it. fool   (131 bytes , 282reads )
你是教徒,还是来插科打诨的? fool   (0 bytes , 220reads )
一切随缘吧,像阁下可能会起反作用的 海川   (0 bytes , 263reads )
偶就觉得奇怪,怎么总有人觉得自己满身罪恶 `@-@`   (40 bytes , 237reads )
是啊;偶之前也这样想 偶然冒泡   (187 bytes , 356reads )
难道信教者赎罪之后,就不会犯“骂过人、恨过人、心里不饶恕过人”的罪了么? 7-UP   (240 bytes , 277reads )
还会犯啊,人的罪性使人的“老我”与“新我”常常在斗争呢, 偶然冒泡   (1204 bytes , 261reads )
中国的贪官这么多,老兄快去让他们都归化了吧,至少吐点赃款出来 `@-@`   (30 bytes , 239reads )
最近春水镇上来了一个外国人,穿着白衬衫,打领带看,到人就猛说:你好吗 胡萝卜   (62 bytes , 494reads )
不好意思我新来的小声问一句:基督徒都您这样的么? 围观群众   (55 bytes , 225reads )
我是怎样的基督徒呢? 偶然冒泡   (58 bytes , 224reads )
我个人坚决反对基督教和“上帝”拉拢和诱惑无神论者。 卷心菜   (323 bytes , 374reads )
呵~~基督教并不是来自西方;而无神论也是泊来的;这个,您明白? 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 266reads )
哎呀,还有泛神论呢,咋办呢。。。。 毒鼠强   (0 bytes , 174reads )
可以看看<这个男人来自地球> 7-UP   (0 bytes , 225reads )
太小看我天朝了, 请上网找一下东汉王充的论衡 shxw   (0 bytes , 195reads )
再举个例子,西洋象棋,其实源于古印度。 卷心菜   (28 bytes , 267reads )
印度比中东还东吧,唐僧去印度取经还是西天取经呢, "这个,您明白?" KissOfWolf   (84 bytes , 276reads )
偶明白了;错误的常识不能去矫正,而要哈、哈、哈~~:D 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 239reads )
连细胞和基因都分不清,谈什么常识。 Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 208reads )
俺在楼下回答你了。呵,别激动,有问题,大家慢慢说嘛~~ 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 217reads )
呵,我没有激动,就是被您的常识震惊了, 我也回复了您的回复了:) Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 215reads )
所以才要神的宝血来洗刷lz她老人家的渺小嘛~ 马甲甲甲   (0 bytes , 181reads )
。。。 KissOfWolf   (44 bytes , 210reads )
偶不是入教,而是找到了信仰。 偶然冒泡   (1225 bytes , 269reads )
那基督教是哪儿来的呢? Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 176reads )
中东地区,耶路撒冷那里 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 183reads )
No! materialist   (235 bytes , 282reads )
我叔叔就算得挺准的。 twl   (20 bytes , 274reads )
10年前,我也是在单位里小有名气的, 偶然冒泡   (199 bytes , 290reads )
信风水的人多了,个个都没好下场? KissOfWolf   (559 bytes , 374reads )
当然,个人不能代表集体, 偶然冒泡   (183 bytes , 242reads )
恩,那您还是 KissOfWolf   (6 bytes , 228reads )
我…… 很信风水 功夫熊猫   (0 bytes , 293reads )
大家不要争了,恶人谷的奥特曼前来拜访 奥特曼打小怪兽   (16 bytes , 227reads )
通篇除了开头,和算命没什么关系 KissOfWolf   (1517 bytes , 390reads )
上帝如果是“佛”的话,祂就不是造物主了;耶稣也不必十架代赎人罪。 偶然冒泡   (277 bytes , 301reads )
提个老问题,你为什么相信世界是被“造”出来的呢。 Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 200reads )
举个小例子:人造心脏是花了很多人的心血去设计与制造的; 偶然冒泡   (186 bytes , 284reads )
某残疾人给自己装了条工学假腿可跑得比健全运动员还快呢~ 马甲甲甲   (0 bytes , 250reads )
是啊;那不如大家都换上假腿去?:) 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 204reads )
是啊,过不了多久人的器官都可以随选随换了的就可以在某种程度上实现长生不老~ 马甲甲甲   (0 bytes , 241reads )
非人造的自然器官在功能和寿命上都要优于现有人造器官组织,这是事实。 Sam_Fisher   (110 bytes , 285reads )
人造牙齿,如果不考虑外观,用金属材料,那么要比我们的牙齿耐用得多。。。 毒鼠强   (0 bytes , 320reads )
you know, materialist   (102 bytes , 252reads )
细胞的长期变异只能引致死亡。例如:癌细胞。 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 250reads )
我怀疑你中学生物怎么学的 Sam_Fisher   (149 bytes , 263reads )
细胞与基因 偶然冒泡   (75 bytes , 278reads )
很好,算是帮你纠正过来一个常识,不谢。 Sam_Fisher   (98 bytes , 258reads )
看您对进化论很有兴趣,但偶不是这方面的专家, 偶然冒泡   (178 bytes , 266reads )
有几个标题列挺逗的, Sam_Fisher   (307 bytes , 279reads )
那啥,我怎么觉得再讨论下去我们会看到“金属分子”之类的高级词呢? 武汉伢   (78 bytes , 308reads )
呵,是啊~~记得有首歌唱道:都是逼得,都是逼得……:P 偶然冒泡   (0 bytes , 241reads )
You should disguise ignorance by avoiding such topic. materialist   (0 bytes , 249reads )
犀利!! Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 208reads )
别着急嘛, KissOfWolf   (234 bytes , 249reads )
:) 心里充满的≈眼里所见的。 偶然冒泡   (83 bytes , 250reads )
哈哈,有些东西想想还是很好玩的 KissOfWolf   (1053 bytes , 223reads )
有趣 百及子   (39 bytes , 248reads )
嗯,您说得很对:各个民族的创世说还是非常相似, 偶然冒泡   (355 bytes , 251reads )
考古不好玩 KissOfWolf   (90 bytes , 244reads )
人拔着自己的头发,是上不了天堂的.. 偶然冒泡   (231 bytes , 271reads )
en, 这个观念很重要 KissOfWolf   (20 bytes , 257reads )
饶了外星人吧,他们也有人权啊。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 219reads )
算命真相 (Z) 功夫熊猫   (32108 bytes , 509reads )
多谢分享!~ 原来你也在这里   (0 bytes , 212reads )
无知地问:华新允许任何形式的传教吗? 草莓果乐   (20 bytes , 265reads )
要抒发个人对个别宗教的热爱大抵不会被删帖 JaneSomers   (383 bytes , 343reads )
因为某教被认为是有中国特色的,而某教被认为是来自西方的; 偶然冒泡   (18 bytes , 246reads )
您错了,佛教不被反感,是因为他们不否认别的宗教 武汉伢   (242 bytes , 304reads )
不仅是这样吧;佛经还认为上帝也是众佛中的一个呢…… 偶然冒泡   (158 bytes , 286reads )
我顶,虔诚的基督教徒杀了多少人,虔诚的佛教徒杀了多少人。 卷心菜   (0 bytes , 256reads )
基督徒都是杀人狂?您别吓人了。 偶然冒泡   (230 bytes , 272reads )
人家只是说有虔诚的基督徒杀过很多人,没有说所有基督徒都是杀人狂 武汉伢   (104 bytes , 228reads )
以偏概全是不对滴,正确的做法是有选择性的以偏概全 武汉伢   (164 bytes , 248reads )
您的理解水平很好啊…… 偶然冒泡   (190 bytes , 279reads )
俺的理解能力有自知之明了,您的理解能力大家倒是都见识到了 武汉伢   (99 bytes , 288reads )
您走好。偶不认为您是脑残; 偶然冒泡   (247 bytes , 263reads )
最后一个请求,您别再回我的贴好吗^_^ 武汉伢   (248 bytes , 285reads )
嗯,是对虔诚、霉运的理解有所不同 偶然冒泡   (229 bytes , 239reads )
(z)偶认为受了很多额外规条的捆绑与束缚, 武汉伢   (168 bytes , 292reads )
我建议您读一下有关十字军东征的历史。 Sam_Fisher   (0 bytes , 296reads )
您不用建议,偶早知道了;耳熟能详的不就是它了吗? 偶然冒泡   (326 bytes , 223reads )
顶这个,认同。 雨天的尾巴   (0 bytes , 210reads )
传教一般也是可以的,但是轮子功除外。 功夫熊猫   (0 bytes , 219reads )
只是贴出来,不算是传教吧 原来你也在这里   (104 bytes , 249reads )
对,关键是我看了,觉得不舒服。要是早知道这个内容就不进来了,我的错。 草莓果乐   (0 bytes , 225reads )
但愿早日“” 迷玉   (0 bytes , 207reads )
但愿早日“人人认识独一真神” :) 偶然冒泡   (631 bytes , 264reads )
简单地说,一个是天父,一个是师傅; 偶然冒泡   (150 bytes , 278reads )
信什么传播什么都不重要 wink   (20 bytes , 240reads )
但愿早日“人人阿弥陀,户户观世音” 迷玉   (0 bytes , 213reads )
不是,我代为转贴,论坛所有贴不违反版规皆可发,但不代表华新任何立场。 功夫熊猫   (0 bytes , 221reads )
此文是呼应下面的热贴:去观音堂抽签 偶然冒泡   (199 bytes , 348reads )
您信您的基督 wink   (162 bytes , 227reads )
信仰是无人可以强求的。但群众有基本的言论自由,对吧? 偶然冒泡   (90 bytes , 198reads )
姐姐,貌似俺们也有言论自由吧 wink   (170 bytes , 269reads )
嗯,爱分享是偶的特点之一。但信仰的事情,上帝都不勉强人; 偶然冒泡   (115 bytes , 252reads )
哈哈,没啥好激动的 wink   (316 bytes , 229reads )
多谢熊猫老弟的相帮转贴~~ 偶然冒泡   (65 bytes , 222reads )