你应该纵向比较(打了一半中文，一个back键就毁了. so bear with english)

Even since young, we have been constantly comparing ourselves (or been compared) with our peers. But honestly, 人是不平等的，除了我们的灵魂和生命以外。Timing, opportunities, network etc. all hugely affect your career achievement, and your salary. Put an good example, in last decade, beginning salary for IT fresh undergraduate changed from 3000 around to 2000 or below, then back to 3000. But i don't think the average quality of those students change that much every year!

I think you should not compare you or your pay to ppl in same age (though it’s seems a very simple and intuitively way). This peer comparison only gives you a relatively mark but nothing more (like an very innaccurate GPS, some information, but don't rely on it). It’s probably better or more objective to compare with the same you 2 years ago or 4-5 years ago.

Think another way of the same current pay number. if one start with 2000+ and double your pay in last 5 years w/o jumping much, then, I would say he/she did a good job with around 14-15% per annual pay increase. But if one start with 3000 or even more, he/she prob need to think why only had 6-7% pay increase when sg econ has been booming.

My theory is, as long as you are improving everyday, or constantly strive to improve all the time, you will reach what you want, despite whatever possible setbacks in between. Your current status is important, but the direction is even more important. If you think you are really on the right track to achieve your goals or success (this is the hardest question or issue), then why bother whether you are paid 20% less in between during some years…


Ps. I might be a little bit idealistic on the thory, but I do think there is a very good chance it might work in long term.
And if you haven't change job since beginning, and think you are underpaid. then 通常来讲，换工作是王道。新加坡4季失业率仅仅2%多一点，not bad market.

祝你兔年好运！



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(引用 box:你应该纵向比较(打了一半中文，一个back键就毁了. so bear with english) Even since young, we have been constantly comparing oursel...)Agree with you但单纯为涨薪而换工作却不明白自己到底想要什么的，大概也不会做的很开心。当然现实往往是残酷的，尤其是有了家庭之后[blueblue (2-4 8:27, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]22楼

(引用 trueif:坡妹要求真高……怪不得剩女率也不低)他讲的是现在的姑娘，不是特指破妹[blueblue (2-4 9:35, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]23楼

(引用 naughtyboy:像我们这种非本地男人要找个漂亮的老婆， 要多少月收入啊？)照非诚勿扰19号的话说--五有青年哈哈哈啊[blueblue (2-4 9:37, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]24楼

(引用 blueblue:照非诚勿扰19号的话说--五有青年哈哈哈啊)我不收看那个节目，请问是哪五有?[naughtyboy (2-4 16:22, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]25楼

(引用 blueblue:有些工作不能看底薪的底薪不高，bonus很高的也是有)有些工作是必须看底薪的。同学们都明白。泪奔了[月无痕 (2-5 11:35, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]26楼

应该算中上水平，我认识很多35岁以上的薪水都在4000一下[Volkswagen (2-5 12:42, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]27楼

(引用 trueif:卢瑟飘过……)换过三四份工作的卢瑟同飘过...[蔡厝港有组屋 (2-5 15:55, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]28楼

(引用 酸乳酪:我今天虚岁30，工作快五年了，大年三十儿早上去本地一家和政府挂钩的工程公司面试expected salary 和你现在的差不多，老板拍板说要我，但...)运气好的政府工作，你进去了就可以等退休了。没有任何压力。而且据说，奖金实际上比报纸上说的给的多....[蔡厝港有组屋 (2-5 15:57, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]29楼

(引用 蔡厝港有组屋:运气好的政府工作，你进去了就可以等退休了。没有任何压力。而且据说，奖金实际上比报纸上说的给的多....)貌似我去面试的那家没那么轻松每隔一个周六还要上半天班，
没有AWS,主要靠BONUS
只是做的项目比较吸引人


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(引用 酸乳酪:貌似我去面试的那家没那么轻松每隔一个周六还要上半天班， 没有AWS,主要靠BONUS 只是做的项目比较吸引人 )一定是keppel...据说bonus都有7-8个月。[SIGG+ (2-7 14:05, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]31楼

(引用 SIGG+:一定是keppel...据说bonus都有7-8个月。)SHIPYARD 才有那么多，我的是KIE，据说才2 to 4 months...有没有人知道KEPPEL SEGHERS大概有多少花红么？
公司貌似华人很少，缅甸，印度居多[酸乳酪 (2-7 14:14, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]32楼

(引用 酸乳酪:SHIPYARD 才有那么多，我的是KIE，据说才2 to 4 months...有没有人知道KEPPEL SEGHERS大概有多少花红么？ 公司貌似华人很少，缅甸，印度�)是在shipyard road吗？听说，曾经发过0。5个月的bonus.[那朵花儿 (2-8 14:59, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]33楼

算是中上的了你可以去salary.sg上的 Benchmark Your Monthly Pay By Age & Gender 2010
然后填写你的工资查一下，我觉得比较谦虚的做法就是不管bonus，就是每个月的基本工资添进去。虽然网站上说 divide your total income (including bonus) by 12 and enter it below。


4300算出来 不管age group选什么都是在中上的水平。很不错了。[极速小乌龟 (2-10 20:43, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]34楼

是跟NUS毕业生比算中下，不是跟所有的新加坡30岁男人。样本不一样的。[sapsap (2-11 21:51, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]35楼

(引用 sapsap:是跟NUS毕业生比算中下，不是跟所有的新加坡30岁男人。样本不一样的。)额。。。看了这个好受打击…… 　[本文发送自华新手机Wap版] [trueif (2-11 22:49, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]36楼

(引用 sapsap:是跟NUS毕业生比算中下，不是跟所有的新加坡30岁男人。样本不一样的。)我觉得也是。NUS/NTU毕业的有5-6年经验的4300感觉有点少。跟整个新加坡的男人比当然是偏高了。那些卖鸡贩的，买冰淇淋的都算在里面。。。。

之前的几个过10000的也是跟我一年毕业的，4年半的经验。

不到4000的掩泪飘过。[功夫熊喵 (2-11 22:55, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]37楼

(引用 功夫熊喵:我觉得也是。NUS/NTU毕业的有5-6年经验的4300感觉有点少。跟整个新加坡的男人比当然是偏高了。那些卖鸡贩的，买冰淇淋的都算在里面。。。...)不要小看卖鸡饭的。。。[Spring (2-12 10:16, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]38楼

(引用 sapsap:是跟NUS毕业生比算中下，不是跟所有的新加坡30岁男人。样本不一样的。)找到个表

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(引用 Spring:找到个表 ...)很受打击！！！[不睡觉的鱼 (2-12 23:18, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]40楼