(引用 卷心菜:99年毕业,干了9年,那么4K多大兄弟你说算多么祝你朋友成功!)谢谢你,兄弟。也祝你成功。[henan (4-29 8:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]21楼
(引用 cnlayer:小声问一句,楼主征得朋友同意了么?)他知道的,谢谢。之前提出的意见人家不同意,于是就放在网上了,让大家给评说下。[henan (4-29 8:17, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]22楼
(引用 卷心菜:这篇CV继承了国内CV的一贯恶习也就是一没summary二工作经历两三行等于什么也没写。 转换成教师的简历 Mr XXX Education: XX University...)汗!所言极是。[henan (4-29 8:18, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]23楼
(引用 卷心菜:大兄弟,随便拿个在新加坡的缅甸华人来IT证书就要写一整页吧他们(也就是咱们的竞争对手)的salary expectation你猜多少?$2500,$...)兄弟,彻底被雷了?!why & how? 难道是很傻很天真?还是很好很强大?[henan (4-29 8:20, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]24楼
(引用 卷心菜:一针见血的确如此)高![henan (4-29 8:21, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]25楼
(引用 卷心菜:大兄弟,随便拿个在新加坡的缅甸华人来IT证书就要写一整页吧他们(也就是咱们的竞争对手)的salary expectation你猜多少?$2500,$...)-〉看看这个,你把证书看得也太不值钱了,考这些证书容易么http://www.cnrencai.com/train/9056.html[今天心情不错 (4-29 12:41, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]26楼
(引用 今天心情不错:-〉看看这个,你把证书看得也太不值钱了,考这些证书容易么http://www.cnrencai.com/train/9056.html)其实也不难,都是自学的。其实也不难,都是自学的,就是考试费自费的贵些。2001年左右考的,现在基本上对考IT证不感兴趣了。[henan (4-29 13:22, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]27楼
(引用 今天心情不错:-〉看看这个,你把证书看得也太不值钱了,考这些证书容易么http://www.cnrencai.com/train/9056.html)美国跟亚洲很不同啊。请看例子。例1:
某哥们拿了以下cert
Cisco Certified Network Associate
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Messaging
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Security
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Messaging
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Security
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator
Microsoft Certified Database Administrator
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist: Microsoft Windows Vista Client, Configuring
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Enterprise Support Technician
国内大城市5年工作后来新,结果遇到大量老印老缅老菲老越竞争激烈争夺2500薪水。
例2:
国内某城市,毕业生找工,想做SAP,考证吧,一帮子同学都去考了,悉数通过。
在亚洲,考证易,易于番茄炒鸡蛋。[卷心菜 (4-29 14:24, Long long ago)]
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(引用 卷心菜:美国跟亚洲很不同啊。请看例子。例1: 某哥们拿了以下cert Cisco Certified Network Associate Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: M...)卷菜兄讲的着实有道理A某打算过些天也去考个SAP[aspernet (4-29 14:37, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]29楼
(引用 aspernet:卷菜兄讲的着实有道理A某打算过些天也去考个SAP)A 兄弟:SAP Certificate 费用谁出?company or yourself? its training fee is very high, And how about sap job after geting it? Thank you.[henan (4-29 17:46, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]30楼
(引用 henan:A 兄弟:SAP Certificate 费用谁出?company or yourself? its training fee is very high, And how about sap job after geting it? Tha...)大A兄日进斗金,区区证书费用自然是公司报销!!!
21世纪,人才最贵!!![卷心菜 (4-29 18:12, Long long ago)]
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(引用 henan:A 兄弟:SAP Certificate 费用谁出?company or yourself? its training fee is very high, And how about sap job after geting it? Tha...)A某从不做无用功自然是拿到了工作才去拿cert.[aspernet (4-29 21:00, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]32楼
To little information on working expPut in "what did you achieve" rather than "what did you do"
Example of "what did you achieve":
Project Manager for ABC project (Traffic Management project for LTA, 3 million+)
Responsible for project budgeting and recruiting
Coordination between customers, engineerings, and subcontractors
......
Solution Architect for XYZ project (e-Government project for Shenzhen, 3 million+)
Responsible for detailed technical design of the project
Leading the staging and pilot depolyment of the project
.....
Exmaple of "what did you do":
Project Manger
Budgeting
Recruiting
Corrdinating
......
Solution Architect
Designing
Programing
Staging
......[香陵居士 (4-30 2:00, Long long ago)]
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(引用 aspernet:A某从不做无用功自然是拿到了工作才去拿cert.)佩服佩服。[henan (4-30 8:28, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]34楼
(引用 aspernet:卷菜兄讲的着实有道理A某打算过些天也去考个SAP)朋友前几年想转行做SAP,用功了一阵子,后来随着来新加坡后就放弃了。前一阵子又想起来了,现在他已经将环境建立起来,自学。
看来,当初的困难没有过去,如今还要从头再来。
证不难考,只是培训费用较贵。而且不知道这个敲门砖是否有用?
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说实话,现在的公司里,新加坡本地人毕业出来两三年几乎都可以做manager,所以他的技术累积不行;另外本地人也不愿意做engineer。所以将coding
的工作大部分外包给中国等或者是从中国,印度,越南等国招人过来做工;这也是个趋势。
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(引用 aspernet:A某从不做无用功自然是拿到了工作才去拿cert.)A兄弟,你不是PM吗?为何也转到IT咨询?什么时候有空,将你的职场生活也写下,共享下。[henan (4-30 8:47, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]36楼
(引用 aspernet:A某从不做无用功自然是拿到了工作才去拿cert.)哦,我打算做SAP的PM嘛我倒觉得做什么事情都是有能者居之,如果语言表达能力和当地人一样好,performance又比较出众的话, 做mananger也不难的[aspernet (4-30 9:12, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]37楼
(引用 香陵居士:To little information on working expPut in "what did you achieve" rather than "what did you do" Example of "what did you achiev...)谢谢香老大。[henan (4-30 11:09, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]38楼
(引用 aspernet:A某从不做无用功自然是拿到了工作才去拿cert.)Whick one? Functional Consultant?[henan (4-30 11:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]39楼
(引用 今天心情不错:-〉看看这个,你把证书看得也太不值钱了,考这些证书容易么http://www.cnrencai.com/train/9056.html)我在国内培训中心干过2003年MCSE,CCNA已经沦为垃圾证书,Sun和Oracle的证书也开始走向垃圾。现在没有顶级认证根本就只能做一些基础的工作。而且通过顶级认证的人只会越来越多……
楼主列出来的证书里面价值高的只有MCSD,可惜还是VS6,已经比较落伍的东西。[香陵居士 (5-5 15:13, Long long ago)]
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