我的飞象定式研究，请大家指教。
[吕大侠 (12-18 0:28, Long long ago)]
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How come all is cross-place phao? Maybe better to play with ppl 1st. (NM)[kurubear (12-18 0:33, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]2楼
以上的定式是我对付飞象的对策，请问大家觉得如何？[吕大侠 (12-18 0:34, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]3楼
正么样？很厉害吧。。。简直就是对付飞象局的无敌不阵！[吕大侠 (12-18 0:45, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]4楼
我是说无敌不死阵！[吕大侠 (12-18 0:47, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]5楼
(引用 kurubear:How come all is cross-place phao? Maybe better to play with ppl 1st. (NM))Cross palace cannon is my solution against flying elephant opening..[吕大侠 (12-18 0:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]6楼
(引用 kurubear:How come all is cross-place phao? Maybe better to play with ppl 1st. (NM))i welcome any comment...[吕大侠 (12-18 0:53, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]7楼
Maybe I can get my senior ...who plays the opening to test with your 84-phao. I am still at my first opening and not familiar with such opening.
---kurubear[kurubear (12-18 0:53, Long long ago)]
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See if there is any loopholes, give comment, then i defend myself with my moves.[吕大侠 (12-18 0:59, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]9楼
有个问题左炮过宫对付飞相局，大概是最稳健可行的一个开局了。但以上所列变着，黑起横车时，红有必要立刻兵七进一给黑棋制造目标吗？以上所列变化，黑基本上都可以抗衡，不过红方在其中一些变化里仍然略占主动，这个结果应该说很正常吧。
[几度 (12-22 15:11, Long long ago)]
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(引用 几度:有个问题左炮过宫对付飞相局，大概是最稳健可行的一个开局了。但以上所列变着，黑起横车时，红有必要立刻兵七进一给黑棋制造目标吗？以上...)几度所言极是，开局稳稳度过也没关系，象棋真正的较量在中局和残局。[卷心菜 (12-22 16:06, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]11楼
(引用 几度:有个问题左炮过宫对付飞相局，大概是最稳健可行的一个开局了。但以上所列变着，黑起横车时，红有必要立刻兵七进一给黑棋制造目标吗？以上...)几度说得比较客观。下棋不可能会有个什么无敌阵。关键在棋的细度。尤其这种棋很讲究细腻。关键是要慢慢下不要急躁就能下出功夫了。
吕大侠摆的几个变例，下飞象局多的人应该不会选者红棋。因为很明显黑车出动的速度快，红棋子力不协调容易出故障。[xiaobeidou (12-22 16:08, Long long ago)]
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(引用 几度:有个问题左炮过宫对付飞相局，大概是最稳健可行的一个开局了。但以上所列变着，黑起横车时，红有必要立刻兵七进一给黑棋制造目标吗？以上...)黑横车后第4回合红走兵7进1有自导自演嫌疑。红改走兵3进1黑的横车看起来很‘滚督‘。[桑原秀策 (12-22 22:32, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]13楼
(引用 吕大侠:我是说无敌不死阵！)应该没有无敌不死阵，就好象没有无敌神功。同样的降龙十八掌，洪七公用或鲁有脚用就有很大的差别。[火影 (12-23 11:28, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]14楼
最近下的一局这局双方开中残都有几处牵强或不够谨慎的地方，但可以看出飞相局并不好下，稍一疏神可能造成先后易手。
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(引用 kurubear:Maybe I can get my senior ...who plays the opening to test with your 84-phao. I am still at my first opening and not familiar ...)吕大侠, 2009-12-26 10.00pm CXQ free to test your elephant opening? (NM)NM[kurubear (12-26 10:34, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]16楼
(引用 几度:有个问题左炮过宫对付飞相局，大概是最稳健可行的一个开局了。但以上所列变着，黑起横车时，红有必要立刻兵七进一给黑棋制造目标吗？以上...)About the 7-Soldier advance 1...I probably will move 3-Soldier advance 1, Black can
[1] 3-infantry advance 1, this will give me the option of 8-Artillery advance 4 to block and attack. This may cause blockade at Black right and cause a traffic jam.
[2] move 2-Horse advance 3, now then I move 7-Soldier advance 1 (2-head snake formation) to cause inconvenience to Black's 2 horses. Black most probably need to do patrol duty and trade one of Red's Soldier to open up at least one horse pathway to reduce the possible risk of weak attack firepower or weak link of horse when going for attack later.
[2A] If Black goes for even development on right by 2-artillery move to 1, Red can 8-Artillery move to 6 and use the versatile Phan Cong Ma (反宫马) formation.
[2B] If Black decides to open up one of its horse's pathway by trading one of Red's Soldier, Red can counter using the stable multi-options Binh Phong Ma (3-7-Horse) with 2-Artillery advance 2 to start attack on the patrolling rook.
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(引用 卷心菜:几度所言极是，开局稳稳度过也没关系，象棋真正的较量在中局和残局。)There is some ...truth in this. From what we were taught, it is a known fact that 1950-1980s Singapore CHIchess veterans rely more on their mid-games rather than their openings. Opening info/theory were at its infancy then.
This is the same reason why we were trained in our first opening only at a very late stage by our mentors. Even with our training, our mid-games are still at baby steps because of its complexity and we are constantly learning.
Our mentor says: The best opening is the one that exposes the enemy's weaknesses, not the situational perfect moves or what other people think are the better moves.
---kurubear[kurubear (12-26 14:45, Long long ago)]
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第一局 赵金山 先负 吕瑞展 (cxq 25min game) 29dec2009[吕大侠 (12-28 2:40, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]19楼
第二局 赵金山 先负 吕瑞展 (cxq 25min game) 29dec2009[吕大侠 (12-28 2:43, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]20楼