(引用 棋一生:100%赞同你的看法！！！ 这就有如目前的市场上有许多美容院看准姑娘爱美的心态，推出许多减肥配套和减肥药品一样。那些药品有害的；�...)As mentioned, this matter was referred up yesterday, ........although you are sending this post in your personal capacity but a lot of players may think this is also the official stand from the 3rd man.
By the way, for 美容, when 政府 take action on the shop could be after the events, ended up with ugly faces or the worst cause a life, so, not a good example too.[2008八连负 (6-30 9:33, Long long ago)]
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(引用 2008八连负:As mentioned, this matter was referred up yesterday, ........although you are sending this post in your personal capacity but a ...)one example of water supplier .......
do you know in the commercial buildings, some have the water supplier for drinking or industrial use.
One building in the north connected the water pipes wrongly after maintenance several years ago, ended up .....
The commercial building example as given by 业余棋评家, do you know how the building connect the water pipes, could it be only drinking water for level 3 only ? Even toilets could have both types of connections !!! [2008八连负 (6-30 9:43, Long long ago)]
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(引用 2008八连负:As mentioned, this matter was referred up yesterday, ........although you are sending this post in your personal capacity but a ...)个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事的看法，全体的理事不可能每次都是相同的，一定会有某些理事的看法不同，最终要投票表决。因此，我个人在华新发表的看法，纯粹是我个人的看法，并不是经过理事会通过的看法。
我希望“2008年八连负”，往后不要以“众棋友”的藉口，把我的看法，硬套为“总会的看法”，离间我与总会诸理事的感情，让我背上“莫须有”的罪名。
同时，我也希望“2008年八连负”不要再套用“众棋友”的老套，要敢敢把他们的名字列出，让我有机会向他阐明“会与个人”的关系。
我个人也希望“2008年八连负”往后，能够把大部份的时间和精神，除了一部份用在多关心你的“Boss”之外，如果真的对棋艺有浓厚的兴趣，其他时间可专心用在打谱，提高本身的棋艺，不要再重复“八连负”的败绩。你个人心理上可能感觉无所谓，但有些棋友可能有所谓，那会影响他们的对手分，影响他们的名次。[棋一生 (6-30 10:42, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)I give up !!![2008八连负 (6-30 10:52, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]24楼
(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)such views from a 3rd man, although in personal capacity .....
my suggestion to you is try to be more careful in your talks instead of apologies later so many times.
Your last sentence is to ask me not to join the competition ?! you can 专心 打谱 and I can continue with the 八连负, are you suggesting those not able to reach the top 8 not to join the competition ? Are we wanting more graded players to come out ?
Actually, we can learn from Hong Kong to demote a player, say in the last 20 % or not coming out for a number of years, we have such discussions in 悟入棋途 previously too.[2008八连负 (6-30 11:00, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)for those 棋友 played with me in 2008，are they thinking of .......
winning me or they are thinking for me to get more 对手分 for them ?
[2008八连负 (6-30 11:07, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)Do you understand, e.g. in cabinet meetings could have different views but ....having same stand when facing the public .....
SIXGA EXCO may need to learn this too.[2008八连负 (6-30 11:11, Long long ago)]
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(引用 野比大雄:should not waste your grandchild time on this matter .....this is not a good example. Anyway if you really like to think in thi...)欢迎新人 赠桃一粒=)[一刀n断 (6-30 11:18, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]28楼
(引用 2008八连负:such views from a 3rd man, although in personal capacity .....
my suggestion to you is try to be more careful in your talks inst...)Yes, as discussed, HK is adopting a more aggressive way香港的制度好处在于不用担心每年A组不够人下，因为大家都担心降组。
香港与新加坡差别较大，华人人口比新加坡多一倍。新加坡实行起来暂时有困难，暂时不太可能被象总会议通过，需要继续考察。[卷心菜 (6-30 11:26, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)very clear that the first group of 众棋友 you need to talk to is SIXGA EXCO...[2008八连负 (6-30 11:45, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]30楼
(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)我没禁止你参赛！！！ 下棋的人可能有三个目的 ：
（1）消遣，打发闲余时间，下得好不好，无所谓，不追求名与利；
（2）成为一名好棋手，棋要下得好，受人赞赏，有机会代表国家；
（3）为了工作，由于就职的公司或团体的关关，不得不接触象棋。
象总将棋手分等级的其中一个目的，就是要在有级的棋手中，通过彼此之间的竞赛，从中选出最优秀的，代表国家出赛。因此，如果一个棋手参加有级的比赛，目的纯粹是为了个人的兴趣，只是为了消遣，打发闲余的时间，而志不在于把棋下得好，下得精彩，争取好的成绩，那我很乐意奉劝他，最好不要参赛，在家多关心太太儿女。以免连累其他的棋手。
因此，如果你要参赛，就要下苦功，多下棋是不够的，要多打谱，再实践，以你的资质与天赋，来年要摆脱“八连负”的枷锁，是指日可待的！！！[棋一生 (6-30 11:52, Long long ago)]
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(引用 2008八连负:As mentioned, this matter was referred up yesterday, ........although you are sending this post in your personal capacity but a ...)那我就等待SIXGA EXCO对我采取行动吧！！！[棋一生 (6-30 12:01, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]32楼
(引用 棋一生:我没禁止你参赛！！！ 下棋的人可能有三个目的 ：
（1）消遣，打发闲余时间，下得好不好，无所谓，不追求名与利；
...)but I enjoy the process and not really care about the results .....
anyway, not easy to get permit (to Boon Lay or Bishan) for future years when I stay at Tanjong Pagar.[2008八连负 (6-30 12:04, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:那我就等待SIXGA EXCO对我采取行动吧！！！)wrong 跟帖 !!! Please be more careful !!!
"this matter was referred up yesterday, ........" is regarding RC matter to PA HQ.[2008八连负 (6-30 12:06, Long long ago)]
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(引用 棋一生:那我就等待SIXGA EXCO对我采取行动吧！！！)You have requested to talk to 众棋友 but this is the other way now !!![2008八连负 (6-30 12:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]35楼
(引用 棋一生:个别理事对某件事的看法，未必一定与“会”的看法相同！！！ 大家如果有参加过团体，有担任过团体理事，相信都有这个经验，对于某件事�...)Rubbish again !Hi all . I not comment on the issue 需9名有兴趣比赛的棋友报名.
But i read that 棋一生 trying to say :
不要再重复“八连负”的败绩。你个人心理上可能感觉无所谓，但有些棋友可能有所谓，那会影响他们的对手分，影响他们的名次。
You may contribute a lots in past and now .
So what ? Then take over sigxa and use your rank to band 2008 八连负 la !! or other poor skill players.
Didn't you loose game to someone lower Grade ?! and not only once in "Quan Guo Sai" :(
Think for other and yourself !!
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(引用 棋一生:我没禁止你参赛！！！ 下棋的人可能有三个目的 ：
（1）消遣，打发闲余时间，下得好不好，无所谓，不追求名与利；
...)"连累其他的棋手" ??? Thanks to 网络蚂蚁 for the third party's view, ...........
I believe we like to have those strong ones in top 8 and do not need to wait for me on 对手分.
Only those Top 8 will be promoted to 甲级 and only 甲级 can be considered to 代表国家出赛.
I believe that at least a few of the players for 2008 Group A are quite sure before the competition starts that not able to join this year Top 8, is it better for us not to join the competition at all ? After so much effort, SIXGA and Boon Lay managed to get 22 players for this year Group A, I joined this year purely to give my support to Boon Lay although distance is one of my main concerns, of course, I had chances in some of the games too but definitely still in the bottom few of the ranking.
On 棋一生's request to ask for the name of “众棋友” for him [有机会阐明“会与个人”的关系。], when I gave the “众棋友” as SIXGA EXCO, instead of for him to 阐明“会与个人”的关系 in his next EXCO meeting, he said : [那我就等待SIXGA EXCO对我采取行动吧！！！] what is the whole logic of these !!!
众棋友 may notice from the past incidences that both 棋一生 and I talked at different "languages", I still could recall that
棋一生 said -- "我希望以后你看到我写的文章，是真的也好，虚构的也好，就当作看故事小说就好，不要过于认真。"
could this be the main reason ? He is writing 小说 but I treat them as facts. :(
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(引用 网络蚂蚁:Rubbish again !Hi all . I not comment on the issue 需9名有兴趣比赛的棋友报名. But i read that 棋一生 trying to say : 不要再重复...)网络蚂蚁真有正义感，佩服，佩服！！！[棋一生 (6-30 16:10, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]38楼
(引用 棋一生:网络蚂蚁真有正义感，佩服，佩服！！！)Good, at least you listen to 网络蚂蚁. ........
By the way, who is 网络蚂蚁 ?[2008八连负 (6-30 16:20, Long long ago)]
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(引用 2008八连负:As mentioned, this matter was referred up yesterday, ........although you are sending this post in your personal capacity but a ...)断章取义？[bls (6-30 17:50, Long long ago)] [ 传统版 | sForum ][登录后回复]40楼