华新 - 消极的看是一次角力， why choose Bishan, near to SIXGA HQ ???

在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

by the way, if he needs to have hard fight with me, he is not so strong and ...better not for him to go into Top 4. :D I only played with two players in Top 8. You can check with both regarding my games with them.

In fact, only the 5th position after Round 7 can have such complaint if any ...

by I did not play with him.

Others, 6th etc..... including this player, since not able to move into Top 4, please try harder next year. :)

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在 bls 的大作中提到：

I remember one player complainingat the beginning of round 8 that he cannot make it to top 4 because he was 'unlucky' got one 'horse' that cannot 'run'.

I have told this player (should be), do not play any strategy draw at ...

Round 6 when I saw him and another player doing calculation of points after Round 5. When he try to work out the pairing manually for Round 7 after Round 6, I told him to go back to sleep and pairing information will be shown in 悟入棋途 as usual after midnight.

In fact, He needs to blame himself !!! This is the end result of strategy draw for him.

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在棋一生的大作中提到：

昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法！！！昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法，他们也阐明了他们的另一个看法，与2008年八连负所提的不同。由于目前我的身份与以往不同，为了避免我的言论与看法被人加以利用，造成对象总的损害，引起棋友们的误会，往后一些较敏感性的课题，我还是少介入为妙，希望众棋友能够见谅！！！！！

Yes, my view is nothing to do with 象总, it should be very clear from ......

the first day, I am just express my thinking as one of the xiangqi lovers and how I look at those posts as external parties.

Regarding RC matter, I have referred to PA HQ on last Sunday as indicated, I also hope no more discussions or examples and just waiting for the directive.

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在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

bls, I do not want to waste time with you .....

when he know his pairing with me, he might feel lucky at that time, after the event if he could not get into top 8 or top 4, he just try to blame others, this is not the right way. Learn hard and try to get to the top .... I will stop here.

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在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

bls, what you heard is ok to me, what you added is wasting time .....

if you are one of the players, please come to SIXGA to have an open talk.

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在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

bls and this not in Top 4 player, .....

may be I should learn from the way below to answer regarding minor scores ....

http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=123_11039252

This player should request the organiser to arrange other top 8 players to play with me except him so that he may have a chance for the Top....:D

but all competitions are having chances, if the end result still he could not get into top 4 due to my better performance this time round and he will start blaming no chance to play with me. :P

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在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

The definition of 对手分, .....

there is one critical point here, .....

for him to get better 对手分 from me, i.e. major points for me, I need to get major points from any of the 9 players (in fact 8 players), My question is more on whether they prefer I am having better major points, the answer is no, so they can't expect to have better 对手分 from me. I hope this is clear now.

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在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

ok, next time try to get better 对手分 for all (from all) lah ... => lucky.

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在 chess 的大作中提到：

Come on! Why compare SIXGA to the cabinet? Why make this forum so political?Is there no freedom of speech here? Are you saying that all your Bishan club EXCO members will present the same view when speaking to anyone, including in any online forums or in any casual meetings? If so, does that mean that we can take any Bishan EXCO member's words as the intention of the entire club? Don't reply with a confident 'YES' yet as you'll never know what your EXCO members might say outside, perhaps just a casual remark in a party/pub? Do not be too harsh on others as you never know when you'll make the same mistake yourself! Please make peace and allow all chess lovers to ENJOY this site! Thanks in advance! :)

please try to read all related postings and not just pick on one point, .......

I just wish to give an example only.

Even in Bishan EXCO, for some matters, if majority agreed but I have my own views, I still have to carry out if it is good for the club. This should be the usual approach, what I really want to bring up is try to have different views discussed in the EXCO meetings instead of outside.

Please refer to

昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法！！！－棋一生　263 bytes 2008-07-01 09:46 (24 reads)

and I will not discuss this further.

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在 2008八连负的大作中提到：

please try to read all related postings and not just pick on one point, .......I just wish to give an example only. Even in Bishan EXCO, for some matters, if majority agreed but I have my own views, I still have to carry out if it is good for the club. This should be the usual approach, what I really want to bring up is try to have different views discussed in the EXCO meetings instead of outside. Please refer to 昨晚已和SIXGA EXCO阐明我的看法！！！－棋一生　263 bytes 2008-07-01 09:46 (24 reads) and I will not discuss this further.

For Bishan EXCO members, if they have different views outside, ......

as Acting Chairman of the 4th EXCO, I also hope that they can bring those views back into the EXCO meetings for discussion and try to have common stands, this should be the way for all organisations and nothing to do with politics.

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在 chess 的大作中提到：

I've seen so many ''and I will not discuss this further'' posts by you...but did you really mean what you say? If you cannot stop putting up MORE POSTS after you say you will stop, then don't promise that you WILL STOP! How do you gain respect from others when you do not mean what you say. I realised that you get very offensive when others do not agree with you. But note that the world does not revolve around you. Do be more considerate when posting your comments here and do not flood this forum with items to vent your anger (which others may not be interested in). Basically, you always continue arguing about various matters until others are too tired to argue with you. But is the person who always ends last the winner? I believe that everyone here are objective enough to distinguish between right and wrong (especially when we are all chess players with good analytical skills). A good author can just write few books to gain respect and recognition. A lousy author will not gain recognition regardless of ho (more...)

This is a forum, if you do not like to have any exchange, .....

for me, I will decide when to stop, as soon as I have no value in this forum. :)

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在林关浩的大作中提到：

象总声明站在推动棋运的立场，我们希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛。因此，没有理由身为象总会长的我或象总理事会，会发出禁令或打压任何棋手参加比赛。如果会有这方面的流言，这是令人觉得遗憾和痛心的！至于，棋队领导人或棋手本身的立场或意愿，是否乐意参与比赛，我们是无权也无法左右他们的决定。而他们的言论和行径，也不能视为代表象总。今年象总的工作重点如下： 1）筹备7月31日晚的新理事就职典礼 2）筹办10月20至26日之第15届亚洲象棋锦标赛在此，我呼吁我国广大的棋友们，是不是应该屏除个人的恩怨，来支持以上的两个活动？！谢谢！

the possible reason behind this 声明 ....

did we hear this 流言 in 悟入棋途 ?

No, until the post by 棋一生.

To an external party, this 流言 created by 棋一生, explained by 棋一生 and killed by 棋一生 in the same post.

ended up 象总会长 may feel better to send 象总声明.

The better way for 棋一生 to handle this case is "kill the 流言 at where you heard." We do not know such 流言 until we read here.

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在卷心菜的大作中提到：

在这里需要澄清一下，多亏棋一生和象总帮忙澄清。一个网络论坛临时凑9人下棋游戏，竟然在现实中能遇到这么大的阻力，惊叹呼。此后多亏棋一生和象总帮忙澄清，排除阻力。并非由棋一生发起流言，特地在此澄清。

just to share that I alerted 象总会长 on ........

请不要轻易听信谣言！！！－棋一生　540 bytes 2008-07-01 23:19

Personally, I read

象总声明－林关浩　516 bytes 2008-07-02 14:15

with the following own conclusions :

(1) 象总会长 prefers to have 跟帖 here instead of 跟帖 under "谣言"

(2) 象总会长 wants to hind that 象总会长 and 象总理事会 should have the same stand when encounter issues in this type of nature.

If 棋一生 still have different views, just ignore all my postings, please.

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在卷心菜的大作中提到：

Regarding your problem of forming team, .......

站在推动棋运的立场，我们 at Bishan Xiangqi Club also 希望看到更多的棋赛举行及更多人参与比赛 provided the RC xiangqi team is formed within the RC's objective and our role as Bishan East Division Xiangqi Co-ordinator is still intact.

In the coming EXCO meeting, we will discuss all my actions so far and I will step down from the post of Acting Chairman if the EXCO confirms that I should not act in such ways.

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在 bls 的大作中提到：

Always 断章取义。What is your intention? Smear black 象总会长?

I believe that 象总会长 appreciates the alert from me, as for you ....

after the issue on "fix", you just try to find means to take revenge, you know my identity, may I know yours ?

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在 bls 的大作中提到：

Always 断章取义。What is your intention? Smear black 象总会长?

one more point to bls, did you see my personal own conclusion first ......

by the way, if you are still not happy, please let me know when you are free to go to SIXGA to have tea or coffee talk.

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在几度的大作中提到：

重复一下我的观点去年发生了一件很有名，但和象棋没什么关系的事情：台湾陈水扁在慰问义工（台湾的叫法是志工吧）时，夸他们的贡献“罄竹难书”，一时哗然。台湾的“教育部长”杜正胜在回答立委咨询时，竟然解释说，“罄竹难书”是用完了竹子（很久以前书写用竹简）也写不完，至于是褒义还是贬义，“陈总统当时要说的是什么意思，就是什么意思。” “罄竹难书”，原本的意思是作恶多端，竹简用尽了都记录不完。这件事情，我本来也是当笑话来看的。直到后来有位朋友对我说，杜正胜做的也不能算错，他的回答，是很标准的官样文章，因为他既不能否认“罄竹难书”原来的贬义，也不能说顶头上司陈水扁错，就只剩下这一个讲法了。退一步说，陈水扁的本意也没错，只是水平有限或是一时口误，用错了成语而已。从这件事情来看，从事政治的人，和平民百姓对同一件事情的看法和处理手法不同，是因为双方的着重点不同。放到象棋上面来说，棋会的领导和普通棋手的想法，有时候有偏差，是因为大家的侧重点不一样，不是谁对谁错的问题。现在关于这个比赛的帖子和跟帖，也是这样：大家讨论的是棋会，还是棋手？结果说棋会的以为大家都在说棋会，说棋手的以为所有人都在说棋手。大家一开始争论的就不是同一样东西。 (more...)

悟入棋途 is my 4th lover .........

by dates for those who know.

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在 bls 的大作中提到：

Always 断章取义。What is your intention? Smear black 象总会长?

There are so many 跟帖 under this 主帖 .......

why 象总会长 choose under here to provide 跟帖 to clear 谣言 ?

who use the word "fix" ?

who use the words "smear black" ?

I just use my common sense to talk about personally ..... own conclusion ....

especially after alerted 象总会长 on the serious of "谣言" post. (in fact, to me, it is a surprise that 象总会长 sent the 跟帖 as he told me just to ignore it.)

Please read your own post on how you close the "fix" issue and how many times you need to say sorry and apology to different people just in the past three weeks !!!

我也懒得跟乱开炮的人多说了。

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